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#384 of 653 Re: Nice car, but electrical system worthy of Yugo [nondescript42] by waterdr Dec 29, 2007 (9:53 pm)
Replying to: nondescript42 (Dec 28, 2007 10:20 pm) Yup...welcome to the Saab depreciation dissaster! Tis why I bought used and with a 100K warranty. Saabs seem to loose money faster then other brands in the first few years.   BTW, my wifey likes to leave the keys in the ignition for some dumb reason which has killed the battery twice. Both times I called Saab roadside. Both times they came and jumped the car in seconds using standard, run of the mill jumping equipment. I think the last guy that jumped it was nammed "Bufford" and I think he just got out of bed eventhough it was 3 in the afternoon.   There is nothing special with jumping a Saab with a dead battery. A battery is a battery.   The last GM vehicle I owned previous to this was a Suburban....and put 100k miles on it. It was NEVER in the shop....not once except for oil, tires, and brakes. The first set of rotors did not go on it until 65k. When I got rid of it, the only thing that did not work was the electronic compass on the rearview mirror.   Meanwhile, the guy across the street is undergoing lemon law proceedures against Honda. The car is in the shop more then it is on the road due to a suspension design flaw that can't be fixed. Go figure.   While I can relate to your family concerns and know all too well the pain associated with loosing a child, Saab makes one dam safe car. I feel very confident in mine and one of the reasons we own it.   It was unfortunate your luck was bad and you feel the way you do. I really can't find fault with Lexus as this brand is a great choice.
#385 of 653 Re: depreciation? [waterdr] by saablcp Dec 31, 2007 (7:38 am)
Replying to: waterdr (Dec 27, 2007 11:34 am) Oh,by the way....you might want to google Forbes Magazine's list of "10 Least Expensive Luxury Cars to Own".Published in August of '07 it calculates total cost of ownership (incl.depreciation)for 5 years of ownership.The 4th least expensive vehicle was the 9-3 Sport-combi.The 2nd least expensive vehicle to own was the Saab 9-3 Sedan.I hope these "facts"have some impact on your "opinion"! Replies to this message: waterdr (Dec 31, 2007 9:45 am) waterdr (Jan 01, 2008 9:49 am)
#386 of 653 Re: depreciation? [saablcp] by waterdr Dec 31, 2007 (9:45 am)
Replying to: saablcp (Dec 31, 2007 7:38 am) Hey, I am always open to evidence. That is certainly good information to have and great for us Saab owners. However, I guess you have to consider what they are comparing the vehicle too. BMW, Jag, Caddy, and Mercedes have all done terrible these past few years with re-sale while when you look at Honda and Toyota it is a different story. Also, I think calling a Saab a Luxury car is a stretch. In many casis, the initial purcahse price is a lot less then the initial price of other makes which would make the cost of ownership lower too.   As a Saab owner, I don't place Saab in the same playing field as many of the other luxury brands. Replies to this message: waterdr (Jan 01, 2008 9:49 am)
#387 of 653 Re: depreciation? [waterdr] by waterdr Jan 01, 2008 (9:49 am)
Replying to: waterdr (Dec 31, 2007 9:45 am) Here is an example of a "luxury" 9-5 2001 Saab with lowish miles getting $4,500:   http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ee9c851/34544   Sad....very sad, indeed if you ask me.   Go to the last page.
#388 of 653 2008 Deals by obrientwo Jan 01, 2008 (1:02 pm)
Currently the deals on left over 2007's are very good, but the deals on 2008 are not that special. However a dealer told me that great deals on 2008's will start after January 1, 2008. Anyone heard about great deals on 2008's? I like Saabs but will not buy one unless a special deal due to rapid depreciation in early years of ownership. On the left over 2007's, does the $4000 rebate for 9-3's apply after you negotiate a deal with a dealer? Replies to this message: jchan2 (Jan 01, 2008 1:27 pm)
#389 of 653 Re: 2008 Deals [obrientwo] by jchan2 Jan 01, 2008 (1:27 pm)
Replying to: obrientwo (Jan 01, 2008 1:02 pm) The $4000 cashback is after the deal you get with the dealer. I would try to get invoice price, and then subtract the $4000 from that.
#390 of 653 Rebates in General by waterdr Jan 01, 2008 (3:13 pm)
While I am no "car buying expert", there appears to be three kinds of rebates. The straight forward "rebate" is advertised and then there is also sometimes "factory to dealer cash" which is not.   I recently purchased a vehicle that had no rebates, but had $5500 in factory to dealer cash. I tried to buy the car from 4 different dealerships. One of them flat out told me how much money there was w/o me even asking and graciously deducted it from the 1% under invoice price.   Two of the other dealers when asked by me simply stated that there was some money to "play with" but never disclosed the amount. The last dealer outright denied that any money existed even after telling them that I had confirmed this fact with a different dealer. They were either not aware, or chose to not allow me to have the money.   The third type of "rebate" I become aware of only after having a friend who was a finance manager for a Mistubishi dealer. He claimed that Mitsubishi would give them special incentives for moving a certain number of vehicles in a specified period of time. If they did, they got cash back or even a "free" car from the manufacturer. The numbers were rather large if I recall....something like 25 - 30 cars in a short period of time....something that only a big volume dealer could do.   He further indicated that if you caught the dealer at the correct time such as perhaps needing to sell one or two more cars in a day or two in order to get the big bonus, the dealer might extend closing incentives to the customer.   All this makes trying to get the best deal possible hard to do. At some point, you just need to buy the thing and not look back. Apparently everyone must get a great deal anyway because I have never heard anyone ever say that they got screwed - lol
#391 of 653 2007 CPOs? by pregan3 Jan 17, 2008 (1:45 pm)
A dealer near me has a few '07 9-3 sedans w/about 5k miles but none are certified pre-owned...Do you think this is because they won't be made CPO until the incentives on the '07s (4k customer cash) expire?   If so I'd rather just wait to get the CPO warranty. Replies to this message: waterdr (Jan 17, 2008 9:32 pm) eurospecialist (Jan 22, 2008 9:25 am)
#392 of 653 I don't think by jchan2 Jan 17, 2008 (7:29 pm)
the $4,000 cash will expire until they clear most of the leftover 2007 inventory.   Try asking them if they'll CPO it for you.. Or maybe they're not CPOed because they wouldn't pass the inspection.
#393 of 653 Re: 2007 CPOs? [pregan3] by waterdr Jan 17, 2008 (9:32 pm)
Replying to: pregan3 (Jan 17, 2008 1:45 pm) With those low miles, I would suspect that they may be demos an thusly never titled. As such, they probably can't be CPO cars. Replies to this message: eurospecialist (Jan 22, 2008 9:25 am)

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