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Saab 9-3, Convertible, Sedan
#183 of 685 1999 9-3 value with a brand new dealer installed engine
Sep 04, 2005 (9:39 am)
I have a 99 SAAB 9-3, 4 door hatchback coupe, with sports/turbo package (71K miles, leather interior, sun roof, low profile tires, overall good condition). Head gasket blew and subsequently the engine fouled and started to seize. It was covered by warantee although I had to fight for 2 months to get them to agree during which time I bought another vehicle. So now I have a car with a brand new, SAAB factory built engine with a total of 50 miles on it. Edmonds lists about $5682 for private party sale value if the engine had 71K miles. My question is what is a reasonable value for the car with a brand new factory engine and dealer maintained?
Please let me know either on the board or by e-mail. Thanks.
#185 of 685 Re: 1999 9-3 value with a brand new dealer installed engine [kyfdx]
Sep 06, 2005 (7:57 am)
Tried that but nobody replied there either... thanks tho'
#186 of 685 '04 Aero Convertible vs '06 2.0T Convertile
Sep 20, 2005 (1:44 pm)
Saw an '04 Certified Aero Convertible wiith all options except NAV and 14K miles, asking $39K at local dealer, TMV of $36/39K (uncertified/certified) on Edmunds. Then I see that a new '06 with auto trans, premium pkg and cold weather pkg is TMV of $40,400.
Same 210 HP engine on both of them, leather seats on both, most of the same options. '04 Aero does have Onstar, two tone seats, the backup sensors and a few other options that I don't see even listed for the '06 2.0T, but mainly options I wouldn't even notice are missing as I don't need onstar and can parallel park on my own without my car beeping at me.
So at the end of the day it seems to me like the Aero of '04/'05 has been rebadged the 2.0T of '06 and costs just $1400 more than a 2 year old version of itself. Am I missing something here?
#187 of 685 Saab '06 2.0T Anyone bought one yet
Oct 06, 2005 (3:35 pm)
I'm looking at 9-3 2.0T vs Volvo S40 and just wanted to get an if anyone who has bought an '06 9-3 could tell me what they paid. I like the 9-3 but I'm now leaning towards the Volvo S40 right now becasue of the $1500 in incentives and the depreciation is less at years 1-5 which means better RV /resale value. Saab's poor RV kind of scares me....I'm not going to be upside down on the car. The dealer starting talking about this total value promise by GM(Saab). I told the dealer..Saab lowered it's prices and added some std features that use to be options but if Volvo and Audi are offering incentives and they have better resale value/lower depreciation your going to get killed in the market. The Saab dealer is going to have to go significantly lower than the number I can get the S40 for to make up for that high depreciation. I told him to call when he has a legitimate purchase price.
#188 of 685 depreciation
Oct 06, 2005 (4:32 pm)
Since saab cut prices so much, depreciation should be lower. A lot of the depreciation was because of the incentives--depreciation is figured from sticker price, so if a car stickers for 40K and there's a 7K incentive, then you sell the car for 20K in 3 years, official deprecaton is $20K even though you lost $13K.
#189 of 685 9-3 vs S40
Oct 07, 2005 (5:40 am)
If you are lucky, you may be able to get a Saab cheaper than a S40, depending on the trim and options. However, S40 is not really in the same class as 9-3. 9-3 is more closed to S60. Many people were "fooled" by the MSRP price of Saab. I didn't look at Saab until I found out the huge incentive and test drove it. It is the only vehicle I will treat it as my family member.
#190 of 685 Re: 9-3 vs S40 [r34]
Oct 07, 2005 (12:06 pm)
For clarification I was talking about the Volvo S40 T5 being equivalent to the Saab 9.3 2.0T. I agree the the base S40 2.4i is not equivalent, it was to the old 9-3 Linear. The S40 T5 with the premium pkg(includes monnroof) vs the 9-3 with premium pkg and moonroof are very comparable in all features
#191 of 685 First time lease
Oct 09, 2005 (4:45 am)
can someone share with me how or if you can use a trade towards a lease? I have never leased before and have always use my trade towards a new purchase. Howm does it work with leasing?? I would like to find out prior to going to the dealer.Thanks for your help.
#192 of 685 Saab Arc '05 Deal
Oct 15, 2005 (8:25 am)
I was looking at a '05 Arc w/ metallic paint & moonroof MSRP $33,195 (Invoice $31,391). I was quoted $27,399.....that includes $4500 incentive. I countered at $24,400 and he countered at $26,900. At $26,900 that is essentially invoice price minus $4500 incentive. I know he can do better since I when employee pricing was going on I was quoted $27,174 for the same features by another dealer. Back then the incentive was only $3,000. I'm looking at a target price at $25,650. Looking back at old posts I saw the exact same cars sold for $27,000 K and $27,500 in Feb and April so considering this is october I think $25,650 is reasonable, also I'm taking on a huge initial depreciation.
Any thoughts or comments?