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#334 of 698 Buying a S40 in the DC, Northen Virginia, MD area
May 30, 2005 (7:38 am)
I am living in the DC, northern Virginia, MD area and I started the buying process of a Volvo S40.
- 2 weeks ago:
I buit the Volvo I want on the Volvo website. It is a S40, 2.4i metallic grey with black interior, manual transmission, premium and climate packages. When i had my volvo built on the website i clicked on the button to get quote from local Volvo dealerships. The result was the following: for each dealership contacted via Volvo, I received one automatic email with generic offers and afterwards I received another email with their "best offer".
Among the four dealership contacted only one mentionned that his prices do not include Volvo incentives. One out of four. I liked that he did not try to hide anything from me but his offer was not compelling. Here is his offer:
Right now a loaded 2005 S40 2.4i (Premium package, Climate package, metallic paint, and automatic transmission) would be available for our best price of $27,381
The MSRP of such model is $28,850. So that's a 5% discount. I do think they can do better.
Remember i want a manual transmission and the MSRP is $27,650.
- 1 weeks ago:
I went to try one and the dealer told me he can only find a T5 manual. I suspected that he want to sell me the more expensive model. Anyway I tried it on the road with my wife and my son and we both liked the ride. As we went back to the dealership it started to rain very heavily. As the morning was very shiny we left some windows open, so we had to go back home to close them.
- 28th May 2005:
I sent an email to follow-up with this dealer and he sent me a quote for the T5 and he said that they are closed Sunday and Monday. Had they sold enough cars for the month ?
- 29th May 2005:
I went to another dealership and he got a S40 manual but withoug any packages. I tried it and i did not like the T-TEC cloth at all. The reason might be that I can't stand synthetic clothes on me. I always wear cotton or wool. I also felt that without the premium the S40 has a "cheap" feel.
I went back to the dealership and I asked for another car. He said he will try to see if he can find one. After some times he found one 150 miles away from where we are and gave me the following price: $24736 for a S40, 2.4i metallic grey with black interior, manual transmission, premium and climate packages.
I asked the dealer, "is it with the incentives ?" Then he started to explain the other incentives availbles, College grad, AAA, ...
Me: "is it your last offer ?" Dealer: "yes, you know this car cost me xxx, i can't go lower, i will lose money" Me: "ok, thank you". Dealer: "what do you want to do ?" Me: "i don't take any decision today. I am going to other dealership to see if they give me a better offer"
Dealer: he repeated what i just said and i said "yes". OK, thank you and good bye.
I think that was a very bad offer considering the fact that they had to bring the car and the car will have 150 miles.
to be continued ...
#335 of 698 Overseas V50
Jun 03, 2005 (12:30 pm)
Just ordered a V50 for European (Overseas) Delivery
2006 V50 2.4i + Select + Climate + Sport + Bi-xenon + DSTC + Barents Blue + Free Airfare to sweden for 2 on SAS + hotel stay and factory tour + free shipping back to US = 29,400
Invoice for a 2005 V50 2.4i with sel +clim+sport+Bixen+DSTC+paint = 29250
Going to sweden for our 5th anniversary - Priceless.
#336 of 698 '05 S40 back in shop for 4th time
Jun 08, 2005 (8:42 pm)
Well my 2005 S40 T5 is back in the shop for the fourth time in 2 mos. This visit is for replacement of the aluminum colored center panel that the dealer dented during the previous visit, to address a check engine light that came on a week after the dealer replaced the engine management computer, and to determine why the transmission shifts so abruptly in manumatic mode.
I thought the transmission problem was just inherent to the car until I noticed that my loaner car, an S40 2.4i, shifts perfectly smoothly. The problem in my car is mostly the 3-2 downshift at speeds above 5 MPH, which lurches the car enough to scare me into keeping the transmission in D. Anyone else have this? The dealer said he will look at the transmission software, which seems kind of bogus to me.
The check engine light has something to do with the fuel pump or fuel pump sensor. Added to a failed oxygen center, complete failure of the engine computer, loose part in the door, and poor customer service I am finding it harder and harder to love this car.
BTW: the fake wood center stack on my loaner S40 looks really cheap. I cannot imagine why anyone would choose this over the aluminum look. Also I am so glad I got the turbo. After a couple of days in the 2.4i, I cannot wait to get back into a car with some power. Sorry if I am starting to sound bitter, but I really do want to know if my experiences are normal.
#337 of 698 "marketing support" - manufacturer to dealer incentive question
Jun 09, 2005 (9:01 am)
Was at Volvo dealer yesterday looking at used S40s. Turns out they are not much cheaper than a bottom-of-the-line new S40. Here's my question: They quoted me a price of $22-something for a new one (base model). What in the world is this manufacturer to dealer incentive of $1850 for "marketing support" that I found online and how does it factor in to this price? I know that there is a $1000 rebate manufacturer to customer, and I understand how those work, but how does the manufacturer to dealer one work?. Has that been factored in to the quote they gave me?
Any info you can give me would be greatly appreciated!
#340 of 698 What I paid...
Jun 10, 2005 (7:54 am)
jrap - In mid-April, I paid approximately $25,630 for a 2.4i with premium, climate and auto. That included the rebates. Essentially the dealer took the invoice, subtracted the rebates, haggled a little and then made our deal. It was about 10% off MSRP. I'm happy with the deal...not great but good enough.
At that time, rebate was $1500 to the dealer...that is what they subtracted from the invoice. If you search the forum, you'll find the "Volvo magic price" - MSRP-10% - incentives. I wasn't able to do that well but I think I did ok.
Jun 21, 2005 (5:45 pm)
i got t5 awd every option including spoiler 3 yr and 10k miles red/ quartz leather for my wife she doesnt drive much 0$ out of pocket free loaner, and will pick up my car at home (65 miles away) for any repairs or warranty work for $580/month i think it's good, an a4 similarly equiped was $550 no loaner or pickup service.
my wife likes the pickup and loaner service.
Jun 23, 2005 (11:14 am)
I just purchased an S40 2.4i with the geartronic automatic transmission, sport and climate package. The difference between the msrp and invoice is less than 6%. I was able to get it at x-plan, and I believe that worked out to be 1% over invoice. I also received the $ 1,500 marketing support, and I believe the total was 24,300, plus tax, tag, and some lameass doc fee. Generally, I'm pretty happy since it was the only S40 around here with the sport package. The dealer calls me about everyday, advising me to give them all 10's on the survey. I'm sure that there is some additional kick-back based on the survey ratings. Maybe I can arrange for some goodies if I threaten to give them only a 9.