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Volvo S40, Sedan
#288 of 698 New S40 in Cleveland, Ohio...
Apr 15, 2005 (5:11 am)
I recently purchased and took delivery of a 2005 mistral green S40 2.4i with premium, climate and auto for $25,630 + TTL. Not quite the magic number (about 10% off MSRP as it was built on December 29 and under the old pricing plan) but I got everything I was looking and my top color choice so I an very happy. I also got the dealer to match some internet prices for rubber floor mats and a trunk mat.
One unexpected benefit is that my insurance went down about $1 a month after replacing my '96 Accord with the Volvo.
This isn't the right forum but has anyone shopped for Volvo extended warranties? I was able to shop prices on a 7/75k Honda Care plan for my wife's 2002 Odyssey (got it for $800 as opposed to $1600) but I haven't found much info on where to get lower cost Volvo Increased Protection Plans. My only major concern is an expensive fix at 40k miles...I like to keep my cars for a long time as you can see with the Accord but expect long term maintenance could become very expensive.
I'm glad to finally be an S40 owner!!!
#289 of 698 Re: New S40 in Cleveland, Ohio... [whodey]
Apr 15, 2005 (8:45 am)
One comment - the perceived high maintenance cost for the Volvos is one of the urban legends.
If you take a look at the True Cost of Ownership here on Edmunds, then you will find out that in the group of 2001 cars (the oldest data available) Volvo S40, Accord EX - 6cyl, Volvo S80 - the S40 is a cheapest one - 0.38 cent per mile, Accord - 0.41, S80 - 0.44, all very close to each other, while BMW 5 will drain 0.54 cents per mile and so much praised for their reliability Acura TL - 0.44 as well and Lexus GS 300 - 0.57 cents per mile.
This imply performing all maintenance at the dealership. I can attest that the dealership maintanence could be expensive, but the reliable independent mechanics, specializing in Volvos are just as inexpensive as the one for Honda.
As an example - I had a "discount" coupon for the 90,000 maintenance on my Volvo s80 from the dealer about $500, and have it done at my friend's independent Volvo repair shop + the front wheel alignment for $262.
And yes, I have put 92K miles on my S80 and can not be more happy with it.
#290 of 698 Re: New S40 in Cleveland, Ohio... [whodey]
Apr 15, 2005 (11:44 am)
Yes, insuring a Volvo is less than other cars. I find this to be true in my case as well.
The fact that the Honda Accord and Toyota Camry always top the list of the most stolen vehicles somehow affect the premium. Volvo safety and accidents statistics compare with all other manufacturer gathered and used by insurance industry also play role.
If you plan to keep your Volvo for the long haul, the S40 2.4i will be on the low end in term of maintenance. T5 could be higher in maintenance in the long haul (you'll need major turbo maintenace at around 200K miles est. cost about $1500+).
What Lev post about true maintenace cost is excellent fact findings. I think the reason why Volvo high maintenace cost is myth or "urban legend" is it may costs a little more to repair your Volvo than a Honda for example, but repairs/fixes (excluding maintenance) are less frequent in a Volvo.
You may want to check http://www.swedespeed.com for ext. warranty
#291 of 698 charge for delivery?
Apr 18, 2005 (10:24 am)
I am interested in purchasing a s40i from a local dealer. However I am interested in one with the select package (which seems to automatically come with the climate package). However there are none in the state and my dealer said to obtain one from farther than two states away would mean additional costs would be added to pricing.
Is this a standard policy? I figured if he was selling me a car with existing mileage on the odometer he'd consider discounting the price of the car.
#292 of 698 Re: charge for delivery? [mb5]
Apr 18, 2005 (10:41 am)
I figured if he was selling me a car with existing mileage on the odometer he'd consider discounting the price of the car.
Interesting, I read a similar thought for a second time. Why do you think a dealer, which has gone "an extra mile" to fulfill your request (both, literally and figuratively speaking) has to discount a car with some mileage directly related to your specific order?
#293 of 698 Re: charge for delivery? [lev_berkovich]
Apr 18, 2005 (11:31 am)
The main drive behind this logic is the mileage would most likely count against or eat into the warranty under no fault of my own. If they were willing to start the warranty from the time of receipt then this might change my thinking a bit.
It also is somewhat of an inconvenience that they don't have one manual with a select package in the entire state of NJ, and the dealer may realize this and take into account that the costs that they will tag onto the vehicle sale may be the difference between me purchasing with them or trying another dealer / going directly to the source to discuss pricing. This is especially true if added cost would be more than the cost for me to personally obtain the vehicle.
I'm new to this whole process so maybe it's just me..
#294 of 698 Re: charge for delivery? [mb5]
Apr 18, 2005 (12:16 pm)
Your warranty will begin from the mileage on the odometer when you pick it up so that's a mute point.
As for the extra charge, he has to send at least one person in the car they are trading with or hire a flatbed to bring you car back. It's not free. If they can't find one you are free to try and find it yourself and buy it for less if you want.
As for the inconvenience, every manual 2.4i I have driven has been a base model. No select package, no climate, no premium - nada. The sales rep basically said they don't order sticks with anything because stick drivers tend to want them as base. Plenty of autos with select and climate are available here in the Boston area. Now a 2.4i or T5 with Premium, Climate, and Xenon is impossible to find.
#295 of 698 Re: charge for delivery? [mb5]
Apr 18, 2005 (12:36 pm)
my understanding is that it is always best to purchase a vehicle that is already on the lot of the dealeship: even if it isn't at your state. I've looked into this issue before with the purchase of my vehicle because in washington state there aren't that many volvo dealers and they are not always price competitive. but if you had to buy from another state the average shipping cost that i found is around $500. dealers want to move inventory; and when i emailed dealerships before they are usually straight foward because they know you're not going into the dealership to negotiate.
if a dealer doesn't have the car you want and they don't have any deliveries coming up with that spec. that you want then you might pay a little more to have it built and delivered: if the cost exceeds the shipping then i'd get it somewhere else.
#296 of 698 Re: charge for delivery? [tobersevens]
Apr 18, 2005 (5:08 pm)
I had mine built at no additional cost; just had to wait 1 month. I wanted passion red with black (offblack) interior, select & convenience pkg, and stick. My dealer said the closest one was in Oregon, (live in Georgia) didn't tell me what it would cost to ship but suggested getting what I wanted. Incidentally, I picked it up today
#297 of 698 Re: charge for delivery? [divewreck]
Apr 19, 2005 (10:37 am)
My understanding was that after April 1 you were unable to custom build a car for the 2005 models? Does anyone know if this is true?