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Volvo S40, Sedan
#142 of 698 Re: considering S40 [lily]
Feb 13, 2005 (9:31 pm)
Thanks for the kind words, and thank for the info, but I have bought my two newer Volvos through the OSD (that I highly recommend, by the way) and am pretty sure that will continue doing just that - we have tentative plans to buy S40/V50 for my older daughter in 2006 and replace my S80 in 2008. The only question is - what is our route through the Europe going to be...
DSTC is great and it is on a "must have" list for us. We opted out of nav.system twice. It seems too expensive for the limited number of times that we will travel through the uncharted territory. Map Quest or MSN Maps work just fine for us.
My e-mail is published.
#143 of 698 Re: considering S40 [lev_berkovich]
Feb 14, 2005 (11:57 am)
Thank you lev. You are so nice to answer and explain to me on my every question. You are very helpful.
I have three more questions.
1)since S40 already has STC as std, a sales agent told us DSTC is an "overkill" in america since our highways are most straight,DSTC is for Europeans where they have many curves on road; he said for a driver like me, never speed,DSTC is not a necessary. In your last post you said "DSTC is a must have" for you, we would like to know why do you think so? what is the benenfit of DSTC beyond STC? If it is really a "must have", our only option would been left to OSD.
2)is OSD price negotiable? in European Delivery forum, I found out BMW ED price is negotialbe, somebody got $7000 off MSRP ED price for a 330i,do you think it can be applied on volvo also?
3)After you picked up your new volvo in Europe, as I know you could drive it there. If so, it would be great that travel in Europe by a new car. IS OSD price covered insurance in Europe or you had to find one and paid by yourself?
thank you very much for your time and help. My husband and I both appreciate your posts very much.
#144 of 698 Re: considering S40 [lily]
Feb 14, 2005 (3:53 pm)
1. Your sales person just wants to close the deal on a car from the inventory, as they do not make any money, except for the small flat fee on OSD. In a few words - the DSTC is ten times more usefull in the city driving during the Chicago winter. It
a. Works during the braking, while STC is not
b. Can compensate for the driver's errors during the turn.
etc., etc. It makes a difference between the very mediocre traction control of STC and state of the art (one of the best, if not THE best ) DSTC. You can search the S60 and XC90 forum here for the DSTC. We had a lot of technical discussions about it.
One of the examples, when STC will not help while DSTC will is the very common emergency avoidance maneuver (swirl and/or brake to get around the obstacle) under slippery conditions. You do not need to drive in Europe to get to such situation.
2.No it is not. You buy the car directly from Volvo bypassing the dealer. The dealer makes just a small flat fee. And read some of the postings with the grain of salt. The Volvo OSD savings are about 8-10% of MSRP off the base and no discounts on the packages. You also save for not paying destination charge. You will save about $2700 on a $25K car. The volvocars.us website has all the info on OSD. All the info is very accurate. They mean what they say.
3. 15 days of insurance is included into the price. Additional insurance is arranged at the time of the order (you need to mention it) and is very reasonably priced. I have paid $85 for the 1 month extended insurance for XC90. S40 should be even less.
#145 of 698 Re: considering S40 [lev_berkovich]
Feb 14, 2005 (6:21 pm)
It looks like OSD price is pretty close to the invoice price, so wouldn't this really only save a few hundred dollars over the price one could get by negotiating with a dealer?
#146 of 698 Re: considering S40 [lily]
Feb 14, 2005 (6:28 pm)
Couldn't you order a car with DSTC if you want that option?
This site has all sorts of info on stability control systems:
#147 of 698 Re: considering S40 [jeffyscott]
Feb 14, 2005 (6:55 pm)
You are right. The OSD price is slightly bellow invoice and the destination charge is not required. But how many people did buy S40 at the invoice?
The OSD is good for the new models + you get your extra savings on the trip portion, if you have planned the Euro vacation in the near future anyway.
#148 of 698 Re: considering S40 [jeffyscott]
Feb 14, 2005 (7:03 pm)
Just remember that what is called ESC on this web site is DSTC, but not the STC on Volvo.
#149 of 698 Re: Hope this helps. [hellix]
Feb 15, 2005 (9:32 pm)
Hellix wrote - "Got the following Volvo S40
-2005 S40 2.4i
-Extras...Waste Bin, Touch-up Paint, First-Aid Kit, Eye Glass holder, Mud Flaps
I paid $24580
Had to really fight for the price but edmunds TMV is way too high".
Awesome price Hellix! I am taking the email approach. I am playing 4 dealerships off of each other. So far, I'm down to an offer of $24,000 on the '05 automatic metallic 2.4i with Premium Pack. Two other dealerships said "no problem" beating that price! Now I wonder if I should ask for additional packages thrown in to sweeten the incentive to buy from them. It's only been been two days of email "bargaining". Guess it can't hurt? Has anyone gotten comperable offers? Any advice would be appreciated.
#150 of 698 Is the following a good offer on a 2004.5 T5 S40?
Feb 17, 2005 (7:54 am)
23799.00Sales Price after rebate (before tax and registration)
For a new (not demo or loaner):
2004.5 S40 T5 Red with Black Interior
Does this look like a good deal? And how does a 2004.5 compare with a 2004 S40 T5?
#151 of 698 Oops on 2004.5 S40 T5 price is 27399 ...
Feb 17, 2005 (8:29 am)
The price is 27399 not 23799 ... still is that good price?