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Re: considering S40 [lily] by billherrmann
Feb 12, 2005 (7:48 pm)
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Replying to: lily (Feb 12, 2005 12:50 am)

That loaner car deal looks good to me. Is it anywhere near Philadelphia, Pa.? Bill H.
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Re: considering S40 [lily] by lev_berkovich
Feb 12, 2005 (9:10 pm)
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Replying to: lily (Feb 12, 2005 12:50 am)

The 2004.5 and 2005 are the same models. What you are referring to applies to the situation when the model is changed, like S40 2004 and S40 2004.5/2005.
 
The main reason that you can get a dipper discount on 2004.5 is that the dealer does not want to keep cars in the inventory for long time, as it decrease it;s profitability and effects the cash flow.
 
So, if the car in the short supply, the dealer will not have much of push to loose money on a deal. But keep pushing... You never know.
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Re: considering S40 [billherrmann] by lily
Feb 13, 2005 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: billherrmann (Feb 12, 2005 7:48 pm)

Bill, we are in chicago. We found out almost every dealer has more than one S40 loaner cars. The key is bid on new car first, when they see they can't reach our price, they will bring in loaner cars, ask seeing it before you bid on it, be picky. then they may try to "comfort" you. The loaner car they offered $24,9000 still has some space on price, I think we can make a deal on $24,500. but my hubby doesn't want a used car, so we didn't even bid on it. For me, I can exchange 5000 miles for $2000. so that car is still in our list. will let you know if we decide leave it.
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Re: considering S40 [lily] by lev_berkovich
Feb 13, 2005 (12:52 pm)
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Replying to: lily (Feb 13, 2005 12:40 pm)

lily, do not be so naive and listen to your husband. I will not touch a loaner car with the 20 foot poll. People has absolutely no respect to the rental cars. You can be sure, that those cars have been abused any possible way you can push car to the limit. That what my first hand experience with many people is - they use rentals and loaners for the "extreme" test drives.
 
I will rather buy a used car from the person whos driving habits I personally know.
 
And just as MHO, if $400 matters so much to your then you are bidding for a wrong car.
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Re: considering S40 [lev_berkovich] by lily
Feb 13, 2005 (12:57 pm)
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Replying to: lev_berkovich (Feb 12, 2005 9:10 pm)

Thank you lev. I checked kkb, same model car with same miles on 1 year early has only $1000 difference. so we will aim $1000 less instead of $3000. Thanks for your response, we will aim on a much reasonal ,easier price;)
We also has a offer on a loaner car, my husband doesn't like this loaner or demo car idea because he thinks engine break-down period is very important, later we will spend more than $2000 on the loaner car on repair; But our mechanic said this shouldn't become a problem. I have no idea on this issue. anybody can give me an answer and explain to me? Appreciate in advance.
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Re: considering S40 [lily] by lev_berkovich
Feb 13, 2005 (2:10 pm)
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Replying to: lily (Feb 13, 2005 12:57 pm)

I will site with your husband. I do not believe in particular break-down period, but I will not red-line (run at the maximum speed) either. The maximum speed CAN inflict unrecoverable damage to the new engine which will shorten the life of it in the future. In some extreme cases it also CAN inflict very serious damage to the vital internal parts that can fail completely (crack) after very short period of time.
 
And with the demo (less) and the loaner (more) it is very possible that people were testing the limits of the car, especially for the new models like S40.
 
Personally, I will pay extra $1000 to make sure that I am the first owner of a new car.
 
Otherwise, I will buy a used car from a known source.
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Re: considering S40 [lev_berkovich] by lily
Feb 13, 2005 (9:52 pm)
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Replying to: lev_berkovich (Feb 13, 2005 2:10 pm)

lev, you are the expert! My husband is so happy with your answer:), thanks for your post, now all loaner and demo cars are eliminated from our list:) we are also considering OSD since we want DSTC and GPS but none of the dealer has them on S40.
Bill,if you still want the dealer name of that $24,900 loaner car, give me your email address, i will send to you. by the way, that is a red car with beige leather.
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Re: considering S40 [lily] by lev_berkovich
Feb 13, 2005 (10:31 pm)
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Replying to: lily (Feb 13, 2005 9:52 pm)

Thanks for the kind words, and thank for the info, but I have bought my two newer Volvos through the OSD (that I highly recommend, by the way) and am pretty sure that will continue doing just that - we have tentative plans to buy S40/V50 for my older daughter in 2006 and replace my S80 in 2008. The only question is - what is our route through the Europe going to be...
 
DSTC is great and it is on a "must have" list for us. We opted out of nav.system twice. It seems too expensive for the limited number of times that we will travel through the uncharted territory. Map Quest or MSN Maps work just fine for us.
My e-mail is published.
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Re: considering S40 [lev_berkovich] by lily
Feb 14, 2005 (12:57 pm)
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Replying to: lev_berkovich (Feb 13, 2005 10:31 pm)

Thank you lev. You are so nice to answer and explain to me on my every question. You are very helpful.
I have three more questions.
1)since S40 already has STC as std, a sales agent told us DSTC is an "overkill" in america since our highways are most straight,DSTC is for Europeans where they have many curves on road; he said for a driver like me, never speed,DSTC is not a necessary. In your last post you said "DSTC is a must have" for you, we would like to know why do you think so? what is the benenfit of DSTC beyond STC? If it is really a "must have", our only option would been left to OSD.
2)is OSD price negotiable? in European Delivery forum, I found out BMW ED price is negotialbe, somebody got $7000 off MSRP ED price for a 330i,do you think it can be applied on volvo also?
3)After you picked up your new volvo in Europe, as I know you could drive it there. If so, it would be great that travel in Europe by a new car. IS OSD price covered insurance in Europe or you had to find one and paid by yourself?
 
thank you very much for your time and help. My husband and I both appreciate your posts very much.
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Re: considering S40 [lily] by lev_berkovich
Feb 14, 2005 (4:53 pm)
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Replying to: lily (Feb 14, 2005 12:57 pm)

1. Your sales person just wants to close the deal on a car from the inventory, as they do not make any money, except for the small flat fee on OSD. In a few words - the DSTC is ten times more usefull in the city driving during the Chicago winter. It
a. Works during the braking, while STC is not
b. Can compensate for the driver's errors during the turn.
etc., etc. It makes a difference between the very mediocre traction control of STC and state of the art (one of the best, if not THE best ) DSTC. You can search the S60 and XC90 forum here for the DSTC. We had a lot of technical discussions about it.
 
One of the examples, when STC will not help while DSTC will is the very common emergency avoidance maneuver (swirl and/or brake to get around the obstacle) under slippery conditions. You do not need to drive in Europe to get to such situation.
 
2.No it is not. You buy the car directly from Volvo bypassing the dealer. The dealer makes just a small flat fee. And read some of the postings with the grain of salt. The Volvo OSD savings are about 8-10% of MSRP off the base and no discounts on the packages. You also save for not paying destination charge. You will save about $2700 on a $25K car. The volvocars.us website has all the info on OSD. All the info is very accurate. They mean what they say.
 
3. 15 days of insurance is included into the price. Additional insurance is arranged at the time of the order (you need to mention it) and is very reasonably priced. I have paid $85 for the 1 month extended insurance for XC90. S40 should be even less.
 
http://www.volvocars.us/FinancialServices/Overseas/CarsInProgram/- S40.htm

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