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311 messages, Last post on Jun 29, 2008 at 10:33 AM
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I turned 5 digits on it today. 10000. We are having some wonderful freezing rain tonight, and my car got salted because of the trucks doing the roads this morning. Winter is always iffy down here in the middle of NC. We are always on the rain/bad weather line. However, it is possible to have 2 feet snow storms. If it does snow, I plan to park the xB and drive the Corolla unless I get caught in it. That being said, any tires would be better and safer (in the rain, much less snow) than the Goodyears that came on the xB. |
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 In October of 2005, I put down a deposit on an xB. The salesman was quite clear when he told me it could take up to 60 days to get the car. It is now the 5th day of January 2006. Still no car. I have e-mailed, called, and looked at every dealership within 1000 miles of where I live and not a single one has the type I ordered (manual transmission in blue). Has anyone had this experience? Is it just my dealership? Is it worth waiting for this car or should I just accept my deposit is gone and go buy another car some place else?
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Replying to: wsforbes (Jan 05, 2006 3:58 pm) |
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Replying to: wsforbes (Jan 05, 2006 3:58 pm) You are not going to see a manual in any color on any lot. Dealerships assumes everyone drives automatics. Actually about 90% of Americans do. |
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Replying to: wsforbes (Jan 05, 2006 3:58 pm) Like any manufacturer, they only have limited power against their dealers, but they do have tools to use. |
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Replying to: dwildhirt (Dec 06, 2004 11:48 am) for state sales tax rates. Oregon, New Hampshire, Montana, Delaware, Alaska are listed as 0% sales tax..
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Replying to: xbbuyer (Jan 13, 2006 7:15 am) Given that I am not a quiet sort of fellow, I wrote some people in Toyota. Specifically, every Regional Manager for the brand in North America. That got me an e-mail from a guy named David Christ, Brand Manger for Scion. Nice e-mails. It is January 31 and still no car. I forwarded my e-mails to the sales manager at the dealership. Per the advice of Mr. Christ, I am dealing only with him. His response was, "so, do you want to cancel your order or what? We have the ETA for this car listed as this week." Let me repeat, I ordered this in October 2005. There is a great chance that Scion's are great cars. I have no idea. A brief test drive with what has to the world's most gifted liar is my only experience with the car. This has to be the worst dealership in the universe. 
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| Hopefully things will turn out. Went to Toyota of Downtown Seattle and was told they could get any color in a week and a half (saw a white one that was already sold on the lot and I have to say, It looked pretty sharp), then after a half hour of filling out forms and talking accessories he comes back to me and say there's not a Red one in a five state radius to be had! What?! Black, White, or Silver, your choice. Hell with that. I had some time left in the day so I went out to Lake City Toyota and they said they had the Salsa one coming into Portland in a day! Plus Downtown Toyota wanted $500 bucks to hold one and Lake City only wanted $100. Granted LC is a bit far from my house but I think it's a no brainer. Though I'm tempted to call up Downtown T and see how much he would like to compete. Oh yeah, anybody get LED illumination system. should I invest in something else? | |
I'm going to the dealership to sign papers tonight and they will deliver my camouflage metallic xB (no extra options, just the standard) tomorrow. I'll be writing a check for $16266.45 tax, title & doc fee included. The documnetation fee is $249. They wouldn't budge on that. Other dealers doc fees are a lot less, but none had one on the lot. I would have had to order, and judging from some stories on this board, I don't want to do that. I think that is a fair price.
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I went to one dealer to place an order, and they presented me with a purchase order to sign with these fees filled in: Special Benefits Package (i.e. extra profit for dealer) 598.98 Sales Consultant Fee (i.e. extra pay for saleman) 250.00 Docment Fee 99.95 When I complained, they said I should check another dealer. I went to a second dealer about 30 minutes further away, and their fees were $547 less, so I signed their PO and gave them the deposit. For an xB with manual and no options, the total price out the door was $15,881. I complained to Scion about the first dealer's hidden fees, and was told dealers are free to set their own prices but must post them. But the cars around here only show the MSRP sticker. Then some else told me that dealers do their "posting" on their websites, and sure enough, buried in the first dealer's website were all those high fees. I guess that satisfied the requirement for "posting". My dealer said dealers in this region are invited to place their orders in mid-month just after an auto-ship departs Japan, for the number of cars allocated to them. They also get to "preference" certain details about the cars, and then get a confirmation. The cars take about 3 weeks to reach the California port, have some options installed, and be put onto various regional trains. Dealers nationwide can trade any cars before they get on the train, and after that, they can only trade cars on their regional train. All this is done on computers by the dealers and Scion/Toyota. My train will take about 2 weeks to drop cars along the route and reach Chicago, where my car will then go on a truck to Louisville. Total waiting time: at least 6 weeks. I will get three calls: first when the car is on the dock and I am told its VIN, second when it leaves the train and is ready to truck, and third when it arrives to schedule delivery.
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