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There's a new forum specifically for Scion mileage which I also posted on tonight, but for those who haven't checked it out yet, I'm curious if it's realistic to expect my mileage to increase by 10 mpg after break-in? I have about 700 miles on my 06 xB so far, and the mileage has gone up with each of the 3 tanks I've pumped, but by less than 2 mpg total. I'm jealous of you 35ers out there. The Zeta armrest is great, by the way, and easy to install. |
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You probably won't be achieving optimum mileage until your enging has 3,000 miles on it, or perhaps as many as 5,000 miles. The way in which you drive really has an impact on mileage. Turning your AC on reduces mileage by as much as 25 percent, particularly on our little engines. If you are not doing a lot of highway driving, your mileage won't be much above 31 or so. If you have to drive up hills a lot, etc. etc. So many factors go into mileage. I would say, give it a few thousand miles and then you will know. Keep your tire pressure at the right level, etc.
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Replying to: escapeowner2 (Aug 25, 2005 2:51 am) |
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the air conditioning and how much it affects fuel economy. I have no choice but to have A/C and have heard for years that it sucks the economy out of one's fuel economy for their particular rig...I just hadn't seen a percentage figure in type or print for a long time, so that was helpful information. I was thinking along the lines of about 20% worse with your A/C on. Right in the proverbial ballpark, anyway. It's just not an option to go without it in the hot South Dakota summer sun. 
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Replying to: escapeowner2 (Aug 25, 2005 2:51 am) With my other cars - 6 cylinders - there was no noticable difference with or without the A/C. But these little engines are seriously affected. |
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Replying to: escapeowner2 (Aug 20, 2005 2:49 am) |
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Okay, I am writing this to see if anyone else has had this experience trying to purchase an xB recently. First of all I ordered the xB 2005 back in July for around 15K total. I filled out all the forms, gave my deposit and my car was saposed to arrive 4 weeks later. It never arrived and I never even got a call from the dealer (they still had my desposit). I called the dealership and they told me that the 2005 is no longer available and that we can only get the 2006 now. Problem is, they won't sell it now without the "optional" Toyota Total Care plan ($700 I think) and they are charging me an additional "dealer fee" of $599. What the heck?! My total cost for all fees and taxes is now $16,500, that's 1,500 more than before. I called other dealers in my area and they are also charging an additional "dealer fee" even though they didn't do it before with the 2005 model. My point is, Scion is saposed to have a no price haggling policy but this is not just price haggling, this is out right price hiking! Has anyone else experienced this? |
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Replying to: infinidean (Aug 19, 2005 12:15 pm) I am writing this to see if anyone else has had this experience trying to purchase an xB recently. I live in South East Florida. First of all I ordered the xB 2005 back in July for around 15K total. I filled out all the forms, gave my deposit and my car was saposed to arrive 4 weeks later. It never arrived and I never even got a call from the dealer (they still had my desposit). I called the dealership and they told me that the 2005 is no longer available and that we can only get the 2006 now. Problem is, they won't sell it now without the "optional" Toyota Total Care plan ($700 I think) and they are charging me an additional "dealer fee" of $599. What the heck?! My total cost for all fees and taxes is now $16,500, that's 1,500 more than before. I called other dealers in my area and they are also charging an additional "dealer fee" even though they didn't do it before with the 2005 model. My point is, Scion is saposed to have a no price haggling policy but this is not just price haggling, this is out right price hiking! Has anyone else experienced this? |
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Hi, I"ve had trouble accessing the Scion website for info on options, pricing, etc. since i don't have the latest bells and whistles computer system . . . long story short, I've been shopping for an xB. I agree with all the positive aspects mentioned on this wonderful forum. I'm 6'2" and have long been uncomfortable in normal sedan cars. The xB is immediately spacious and safe (good visibility). My experience shopping has been that there is a no haggle price policy. However, when I recently stopped at a dealer in Charlottesville, VA to test a 2004 used xB with 13K miles, their sticker was upwards of 15, 688 and mentioned "cruise control". First, the dealer said the price was a starting point. I remined him I could go and buy a 2006 for less. Second, is cruise control an option on the automatic drive xB? I test drove a 2005 xB with 35 miles on it at the same dealer, and it seemed to have a resonation or vibration in the engine/transmission at around 3500 rpms. Has anyone else noticed/experienced this? The 2004 I drove did not have it. Also, I heard a recommended option is an "additional" stabilizer bar for the front end? I thought the xB comes already with torsion/stabilizer bars both front and rear . . . Do the seats remove in the xB? Or do they just fold down for more cargo? I'm replacing my Ford E-150 van with a Scion, aware that there will be only so much room, but the xB can haul some large objects. Concerning prices, I ran a Consumer Reports actual dealer cost report on the 2006 xB. It says the Invoice Price is the same as Wholesale Price. On the automatic, for example, MSRP is 15,195, Invoice/Wholesale is 14,460. So they have about $735.00 to "play with", yet I suspect no dealer will split the difference. Destination charge is $515 and included in the above pricing. I will walk from any dealer who adds additional delivery, or processing fees. Anyone have a roof rack on their xB? I thought that was an option too. Thanks for the help!!! 
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