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Replying to: stevedebi (Sep 12, 2006 8:29 am) Therefore... What are the actual, documented tests, that are being cited that say they are "difficult" in snow 
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Replying to: terry92270 (Sep 12, 2006 10:05 am)
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Replying to: terry92270 (Sep 12, 2006 10:05 am) I consider owner's reports on this forum to be documentation. It was here that I first read of the "immobility" problem in snow with the Gen 2 Prius. I haven't seen posts indicating that the problem is fixed. BTW, if was this 2006 modification a software change? Maybe the Prius can be flashed to correct the issue?
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Replying to: stevedebi (Sep 12, 2006 12:24 pm) |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 12, 2006 12:10 pm) If it is on the Prius chat then there probably is a problem. But with high mileage , hard skinny tires no car would go well in the snow. The Prius chat people that are having problems, probably haven't put on snow tires? Are they having problems in snow with snow tires ? Cheers, MidCow
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Replying to: pathstar1 (Sep 11, 2006 6:19 pm) I'm glad these forums exist because I was seriously thinking about buying a Prius. My mother had two Honda Insights and she loved them. With the problems I've read about in here about the Prius I think I'm going to go with a more conventional vehicle. Gas mileage is important but I need something that I or my amatuer mechanic can do some of the repairs to. Hopefully Toyota will continue to work out the bugs. The brake problems I've read about were the deal-breaker. |
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Replying to: midnightcowboy (Sep 13, 2006 4:38 am) Supposedly this traction control system does not work the same as on regular cars. I'm just passing on second-hand info, I don't have a clue. I would like to try a Prius in the snow however to see what's what and if driver skills really is the problem or not.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 13, 2006 6:13 am)
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I rented a (2005) Prius while on vacation in Arizona this year. While visiting the Grand Canyon I experienced difficult snow and ice conditions. There were many vehicles (mostly SUVs, go figure) in ditches. During that whole day I only experienced one problem and that was more engine braking than I wanted while creeping down an icy hill. What I found was that the front wheels were rotating and skidding at the same time because of engine braking, that is to say the indicated speed was about 10MPH but I was descending the hill faster than that. In the end I had to select neutral so that I could achieve balanced braking from all four wheels.
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Replying to: texvegas (Sep 13, 2006 7:08 am) Reading between the lines, I would say that the HSD system has a snow/ice traction control bug. And another commnet the 50/50 weight is being touted for the wrong reasons. 50/50 is considered ideal for a true sports car in good weather conditions. 50% of the weight on the RWD and 50% on the steering. For traction you want more on the drive wheeels. Actuallly most front wheel drive are 60% on front wheels . However, this does increase wear on those wheels and makes steering heavier. That is why there is so much to od about i4 versus V6 in handling. with I$ theres is close to 50/50% weight distirbutuion. The auto manufacturers changes nothing add the additional weight of the v6 and the steering is heavier. If you are wealthy , I understand the ideal snow car is a Carrera 4 with Blizzacks on all four wheels. Studded snow tires last resort, unless wehater conditions really really bad. The studs tearr up everything have bad handling excpet on ice and return poor mileage. Almost as bad as snow chains. Glad I don't deal with either naymore. MidCow |
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