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#289 of 711 Re: tax rebate and Prius Nav system [fndlyfmrflyr]
Jun 24, 2005 (7:48 am)
I was wondering if you know what the tax credit/deduction will be on the new 2006 Highlander Hybrid will be? Also (off the subject) we are selling a 2001 Prius and need to put in a new aux. 12V battery and new tires on it. Is there anything special about the battery or tires that require us to purchase these items from the Toyota dealership. I hate getting hosed at the dealership if I can buy these things from some other place much cheaper.
#290 of 711 Re: Headin South [randyscottman]
Jun 24, 2005 (8:04 am)
We currently own a 2001 Prius, a 2004 Prius and just got a 2006 Highlander Hybrid a couple of weeks ago. Needless to say, we are very pleased with our hybird cars:) On the 2001 Prius, we actually got a $3000 credit from our state, a $2000 credit from our federal taxes (total 5K), on the 2004 model I think we just got a total of 3K in tax credit and am not sure what we'll get on the new 2006 model.
Obviously, the 2006 models are out already, since I'm driving one. I think the 2004-2006 Prius models are pretty identical, although some of the software (recall) issues may be fixed on the newer models. We've never had any problems with any of our hybrids that have been mentioned here, although we have had about 3 factory campaigns on the 2001, 2 on the 2004 so far. A few weeks back I took the 2001 in for a regular servicing and they replaced the NiMH battery and the computer on it for a campaign, although I had not had any problems with either one. Didn't cost me a cent.
Having never used any other nav systems, I don't know if Toyota OE ones are any better or worse in comparison, but I love them. I'm a little "directionally dysfunctional", so I find it handy to use, even in town here. Sometimes there are new neighborhoods that are not on the map yet, so it shows on the screen that I'm out driving in a field somewhere, but new software upgrades seem to solve that.
We've driven the 2004 Prius a lot in Phoenix and never had any problems relating to the heat (but it's a DRY heat:). Using the A/C at full blast seems to effect the mileage quite a bit, but that happens in any car.
We've gotten a pretty reasonable average of about 40mpg in the 2001, about 60mpg in the 2004 and so far about 37mpg in the new Highlander (only have about 450 miles on it). And that's been quite a bit of mountain driving with the A/C on.
#291 of 711 Re: Headin South [jdole1]
Jun 24, 2005 (11:32 am)
"On the 2001 Prius, we actually got a $3000 credit from our state, a $2000 credit from our federal taxes (total 5K), on the 2004 model I think we just got a total of 3K in tax credit and am not sure what we'll get on the new 2006 model."
Here we go again. It is a tax deduction, not a credit, on the federal taxes for 2004. I can't speak to 2001. People are getting confused on this issue, but the IRS rules for 2004 are clear - deduction, not credit.
#292 of 711 2002 steering rack issues
Jun 24, 2005 (5:22 pm)
My 71 year old FIL replaced a $1500 steering rack today, on an '02 Prius with 27k on the clock. The car is 3 1/2 months out of warranty. This vehicle is babied, and literally driven to church on Sundays. The complaint was extreme shuddering at low speeds, when manuvering, especially a left-right-left motion in reverse. This was the second time the car was in the shop for the problem, two months ago, the techs could not duplicate the problem. That complaint is documented. The car has never been hit, run over curbs, etc...
There is NO WAY a steering rack should completely fail on a 39 1/2 month old vehicle with 27k on it!
I've heard rumors of warranty extensions on steering racks on Priuses, but have found nothing on Toyota's pay-per-use TIS site. No TSB's, campaigns, etc...
Can anyone help me find him some ammo to get some relief? I love Toyotas, and really believe they will stand behind this if I can get to the right people.
#293 of 711 Re: Headin South [jdole1]
Jun 25, 2005 (1:09 pm)
Just wondered what you paid for your Highlander. I have a Prius which I just got. I had leather... no GSP or anything and paid out the door about $24.599 I didn't think that the SUV got as good mileage as you indicate you are getting. Is that around town or highway. Air or no air.
#294 of 711 Re: Headin South [mtransue1]
Jun 26, 2005 (8:03 am)
Keep in mind that if they have two previous generation Prius's, they have had quite a bit of time to get to know how to drive these vehicles to maximize their real-world gas milage. It is not unreasonable to think that they are not only beating what is average for most first time drivers (which from the board seem to be getting VERY reasonable milage figures), but also to beat the EPA number by a fair margin.
jdole1, Nice job and I'm glad you're enjoying your new highlander.
#295 of 711 Got the red triangle and orange check engine today
Jun 26, 2005 (7:41 pm)
Nice tip, Steve. You just saved us a trip to the dealer.
We were driving slowly through a school parking lot on pure electric when we got the red exclaimation point, yellow VSC and check engine. After that it seemed that the gas engine wouldn't kick on but it ran fine on electric. Being a software engineer who works with embedded systems, I figured time to reboot.
So we pulled over and hit the power button, counted to ten and turned it back on. The red exclaimation was still on, but now the gas engine kicked back in to charge the battery which had gotten pretty low. We drove home and I hit the internet. After trying the gas cap (nice and tight), I hit the power button and the red exclaimation was gone! Only the orange check engine light was still on. I drove it around the block to get one more drive cycle, Then power cycled for one more "drive cycle" and lo and behold, no more alert icons!
Hopefully it will be another 15,000 miles before the next software gremlin appears. And now we know rebooting 3 times is the cure, I don't mind.
I suspect there is a way to get the fault code to display on the prius display, but I haven't found it yet. Seems a shame to have to go out and buy some scan tool to get info that could easily be shown on the standard prius display.
#296 of 711 Re: Got the red triangle and orange check engine today [pistonpete]
Jun 27, 2005 (9:40 am)
I wouldn't be surprised if you can get it on the display. A Toyota shop manual would tell for sure. I had a Caddy that if you pushed the proper air conditioner buttons at the same time the display on the dash would switch over and you could pan through about 30 different functions.
#297 of 711 Re: Mileage improves despite AC use...
Jun 27, 2005 (11:08 am)
Facinating, your AC uses electricty that comes from God. Apparenty your engine does not have to provide the power that charges that paritcular battery. Just where is that battery located?
#298 of 711 Re: 2002 steering rack issues [wooddorker]
Jun 28, 2005 (3:55 pm)
The FIL found a letter buried in his Prius paperwork that indicates the steering rack warranty is five years for his car.
The bad news? He paid for the repair Friday, found the letter over the weekend, and showed it to the dealership on Monday. Toyota of Wallingford, CT refuses to refund his money, even though they agree this is a warranty repair. I feel that they should have KNOWN this was a warranty repair. Mistakes happen, so we feel they should refund his money and bill Toyota. They disagree, since he's already paid. He has been directed to contact Toyota directly for his reimbursement.
This guy does ALL his service at dealerships. He even buys TIRES at dealerships! Too bad Toyota of Wallingford won't see any more of his money.