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#314 of 485 Re: [micweb] by bryanlie

Dec 11, 2008 (7:58 pm)

Replying to: micweb (Dec 09, 2008 5:02 pm)
Thank you very much. I did some research myself and got some quotes, let me show you some math. These days Ford Focus has employee price and I am looking for a 2009 Ford Focus SE Sedan with MSRP $18,500, which has automatic transaxle, SYNC system and driver's group.
 
Lowest OTD price I got from some dealer:
MSRP - $18,500
Employee pricing - $16,724.99
Rebate - $1,000.00
FMCC - $500.00
College student rebate - $500.00
Total - $16,183.16 ( This includes tax, tag, title)
 
I would like to calculate the invoice like this(Edmunds.com):
Base Invoice: $15,018
Options invoice: Auto tran: $709
                        Sync: $344
                  Driver's group: $361
Total Invoice: $16432
Rebates: Employee: $1500 (roughly)
              Rebate: $1,000.00
              FMCC: $500.00
              College: $500.00
Holdback: $555 (3% of total MSRP)
True Invoice after rebates and holdback: $12,377
Tax(7.5% times true invoice): $928
Tag: $200(Roughly)
Cost: $12,377 + T/T = $13,505
 
So what would be the reasanable OTD price for this car now? Thank you.

#315 of 485 Re: [bryanlie] by alamocity

Dec 11, 2008 (10:03 pm)

Replying to: bryanlie (Dec 11, 2008 7:58 pm)
If I'm not mistaken you didn't include the destination charge on your invoice calculation which in turn affects the numbers you provided. May not find a dealer that accepts the low ball figure, more realistic to shoot for the target price which is probably $15,185 or so.

#316 of 485 Can you receive two $500 bonuses? by pepperleaf

Dec 12, 2008 (10:30 am)

Has anyone heard that you can't receive both the $500 Ford Credit Retail Bonus and the $500 Military Appreciation Bonus?

#317 of 485 Re: [bryanlie] by micweb

Dec 12, 2008 (4:26 pm)

Replying to: bryanlie (Dec 11, 2008 7:58 pm)
You said, in part:
 
"Lowest OTD price I got from some dealer:
MSRP - $18,500
Employee pricing - $16,724.99
Rebate - $1,000.00
FMCC - $500.00
College student rebate - $500.00
Total - $16,183.16 ( This includes tax, tag, title) "
 
$14,724 as a sales price sounds great. I don't think you want to take the FMCC loan, currently 9.9% with good credit, unless you want to re-fi with a credit union after the 3 months lock in period necessary to get the rebate. Credit union rates are currently around 5%.
 
Check the web for the actual "employee pricing" price. The dealer should be willing to knock off another $1000. The employee pricing from what I've seen, by itself, isn't really that great, but coupled with a dealer discount, plus the rebates, is a great deal. You didn't mention dealer discount in your post and I'm not sure if it's already included in what you call the "employee pricing" price. The employee pricing price should be viewed as the new MSRP, in other words, not as the final discount.
 
On the other hand the $12,377 price you are aiming for is absurdly low. If you can get it, or even anywhere close, you've hit an incredible home run.
 
Make sure you are happy with the car, by the way. It's not JUST about the price. Shop for a comparable Toyota (Corolla) and Honda (Civic) just to find out what they are charging now. That's the best way to know what kind of deal you have.

#318 of 485 focus 2008 by YuZhu

Jan 04, 2009 (4:20 pm)

the dealer offered me a new focus SE sedan 2008, howere, ther is a mileage of 2XX, is that normal for focus 2008 right now?
The price is 123XX+TTL

#319 of 485 Re: focus 2008 [YuZhu] by micweb

Jan 05, 2009 (5:44 pm)

Replying to: YuZhu (Jan 04, 2009 4:20 pm)
Yes, it just reflects a slow market with more test drives required to sell the car. I wouldn't worry if it's an automatic, they are hard to hurt during test drives. If it's a stick shift, it should be ok if the people test driving knew how to drive stick shifts....

#320 of 485 Re: focus 2008 [YuZhu] by jfritsch

Jan 08, 2009 (8:01 am)

Replying to: YuZhu (Jan 04, 2009 4:20 pm)
Even during good times the Focus was a 4000-5000 off msrp auto. A 2008 focus with a msrp of about 18500 has a kelly blue book trade in value of about 11000 with average miles. This is what your 2009 will be worth in 12 months. Even for 16000, they are hardly giving it away.
 
If they are talking 3000 or so off go see the mazda dealer. The mazda3 is judged best in its class year after year. The focus not so. You should be able to get an equivalent mazda3 for 16000 or less, and much more car. (i touring value edition auto) Compare them for yourself. Perhaps the Nissan Versa or Sentra would be next, Next the Hyundai Sonata (much more car for about the same price, and 2x the warranty.
 
Especially when you consider the wildcard of the Doestics financial viability. There is nothing compelling about a Focus now at less than $5000 off.
 
Good luck
--jjf

#321 of 485 Re: focus 2008 [jfritsch] by matsukes

Jan 08, 2009 (11:28 am)

Replying to: jfritsch (Jan 08, 2009 8:01 am)
I have a fully loaded 2008 "SES" Focus as well as a 2008 Mazda 3, And I have to say the Focus wins hands down in every category when compared to the M-3! The heated leather seats are comfy, The 500 watt Audiophile stereo sounds like a concert hall, the traction control is great here in Wisconsin on our sheet ice roads (I haven't slipped once) The handling of the Focus is A#1 drives like its on rails!. I had to order my Focus built at the factory as I wanted a 5 speed transmission the car has much better pickup with the manual in it in fact, I raced my fast driveing wife in the Focus and I beat her easy! She was driveing the M-3. All and all, the Focus at least for me was a much better value then the M-3.

#322 of 485 Re: focus 2008 [jfritsch] by capella

Jan 13, 2009 (5:54 pm)

Replying to: jfritsch (Jan 08, 2009 8:01 am)
"The mazda3 is judged best in its class year after year. The focus not so. "
 
Well, depends on what you're looking for, and who's doing the judging, doesn't it?
 
OK, the enthusiast magazines/sites like the Mazda 3 -- good handling, fun to drive. But is that what all car buyers want?
 
For my brother, he wanted a decent car that was inexpensive and had ESC. You can get ESC in any '09 Focus, even a stripped Focus S with crank up windows. So he ended up getting a Focus SE with ESC for under $15K.
 
Want ESC in a Mazda 3? Sorry, you need to buy the higher trim car. Same with Civic. Same with Cobalt.
 
Want ESC in a Versa or a Sentra? Sorry, not available.
 
So if certain safety features are important to a buyer, and if cost is a factor, then the Mazda 3 does not compete well with the Focus.
 
When rating cars, car magazines/websites tend to emphasive acceleration, dynamic handling, and how fun a car is to drive. But many buyers are more concerned with how noisy a car is (big factor if you have a long commute); or how good the stereo system is; or how large the trunk is; or whether safety features are available; or whether it gets good gas mileage; or whether a dealer is readily available; or whether the car is considered reliable; or whether the car is assembled in the USA by Union labor; and so on.
 
"Best in class" means different things to different people. The Mazda 3 might be "best in class" for handling, but it certainly does not have "best in class" mileage; in fact, the sportier models have poor mileage for the class.
 
We owned a Mazda, and we liked it a lot. I have nothing against Mazdas, except I probably wouldn't get one now because there isn't a dealer within 100 miles of us.
 
Last point: we tried out a Versa (which I liked) when we were car shopping -- but my wife found the seating position uncomfortable, so we crossed that one off our list. Because of that bad front seat for my wife, it didn't matter at all to us that some car magazine rated it as "better" some other cars in its class.

#323 of 485 How much should i pay for this certified 2007 Ford Focus S… by russman187

Jan 20, 2009 (10:46 am)

How much should i pay for this certified 2007 Ford Focus S…
 
Bodystyle:
4 door Sedan
Engine:
4-Cyl. 2.0 Liter
Transmission:
Automatic
Ext. Color:
Black
Mileage:
39,674
 
Im bidding $8700 before taxes and fees thusfar…thanks!
 
Bill.

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