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Re: 2007 SES w/options [quietspirit] by rasldasl
Nov 14, 2006 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: quietspirit (Nov 13, 2006 8:22 pm)

The "DOC" or documentation fee is a line item the dealers usually pre-print on the sales contract to make you think it is not negotiable. It is basically a profit-maker for them, they are asking you to pay them to do the paperwork on the sale of the car. Could you imagine any other type of business charging you to do paperwork? Would you pay extra at the grocery store for them to give you a receipt?
 
Anyway, the point is that everything is negotiable, including the DOC fee. One of the advantages of X-plan is that the dealer is NOT ALLOWED by Ford to charge a documentation fee. The disadvantage comes in on a car that can sometimes be bought for a lower negotiated price than X-plan. Say the price on X-plan is $12,500 with no DOC fee but you can, without mentioning you have an X-plan PIN, get them to sell the same car for $12,000 plus charge a $200 DOC fee. Obviously, the X-plan will cost you more. Shop for the best price and then ask for X-plan only if you can't do better. Go to fordpartner.com and use your X-plan partner code to look up the price on the car you want to buy.
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Re: 2007 SES w/options [rasldasl] by jfritsch
Nov 14, 2006 (2:08 pm)
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Replying to: rasldasl (Nov 14, 2006 11:21 am)

Check my message #12481 in the Honda Accord prices paid discussion. Get a substantial amount of competitive quotes by fax or email towards the end of the month. Also read Remar Suttons book.
 
Many times the x-plan -- employer plans etc are bait for those who dislike the car buying process and many people get better prices without mentioning it.
 
The fees are rather unimportant. The lowest price out the door with taxes and fees (out of 10-20 bids solicited and 2-3 good responses ) is the lowest price. Whether they explicitly list a doc fee or include it in their price is irrelevant.
 
Even the most loaded 20000 focus is a 11-12000 wholesale vehicle in a year so you want at least 4500-5500 off.
 
--jjf
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Re: 2007 SES w/options [rasldasl] by quietspirit
Nov 15, 2006 (8:05 pm)
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Replying to: rasldasl (Nov 14, 2006 11:21 am)

I would like to have some leverage when I negotiate with a dealer. Is it written somewhere that Ford x-plan is not supposed to charge a doc fee? Where can I find that statement?
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Re: 2007 SES w/options [quietspirit] by rasldasl
Nov 17, 2006 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: quietspirit (Nov 15, 2006 8:05 pm)

From the fordpartner website, under How It Works/Pricing. You will need your Partner Code to log into the site.
 
https://www.fordpartner.com/partnerweb/howitworks/how_it_works.do
The dealership may also NOT charge separately for document preparation fees, vehicle preparation fees or other administrative services incidental to the delivery of the vehicle on a Partner Recognition Program - X Plan sale.* These expenses are considered to be part of the dealer's normal cost of doing business for which the dealership is compensated by the commission paid.
*Each dealer is responsible for complying with applicable laws or regulations. Dealers may not charge different fees to participants in the Partner Recognition Program.
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Re: 2007 SES w/options [rasldasl] by quietspirit
Nov 23, 2006 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: rasldasl (Nov 17, 2006 7:25 am)

Thanks. Went on the ford partnership program page and got the info. Having second thoughts about purchasing the vehicle, though, after reading about it in the consumer reports magazine. The reviews were accurate when it said the ford focus is a fun ride as I've experienced when I test drove the vehicle. But, it said it's fuel economy isn't something to boast about. And I believe it after it showed another fun ride with an MPG of around 30, the Honda Civic. Still, I might reconsider if someone can convince me otherwise.
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Re: 2007 SES w/options [quietspirit] by alamocity
Nov 24, 2006 (7:03 am)
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Replying to: quietspirit (Nov 23, 2006 12:40 pm)

I would agree that the Civic gets better gas mileage and has a higher re-sale value but keep in mind that the Civic will cost quite a bit more than the Focus. I would recommend looking at the Corolla or Elantra as well, the Corolla is due for a re-design next year and prices are starting to go down and the Elantra has a nice warranty and the 06 models are being discounted since the 07's have been re-designed.
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Re: 2007 SES w/options [quietspirit] by rasldasl
Nov 27, 2006 (10:07 am)
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Replying to: quietspirit (Nov 23, 2006 12:40 pm)

I definitely am not getting 30 MPG in my Focus because it is just too much fun to drive it fast!
 
That, plus I do a lot of city driving (stop sign or light every block type of city driving) and here in NJ/PA we have E10 gas which does not get mileage as good as regular gas.
 
Basically it comes down to price - you will probably pay a few thousand more for a Honda but will also probably get it back when you trade it in.
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buying a Focus by dudette3
Dec 04, 2006 (9:09 am)
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Replying to: jfritsch (Nov 14, 2006 2:08 pm)

Hey, we are looking at buying a Focus, and have a couple questions...
do you guys know if it is possible to get the $500 rebate through AQHA in addition to A Plan?
 
Also, is A plan the best price, or do you think it's worthwhile to try negotiating?
 
Being it's close to the holidays, do you think the #2500 rebate will go up? I know it went to 3500 over Labor Day, that's why I am wondering if we should wait or just go ahead an buy it.
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Negotiating a price by deezwho
Feb 25, 2007 (12:45 pm)
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Hi,
 I just spoke to a dealer who offered me the following:
2007 Ford Focus SE + Convenience Package + Safety Package + Auto Transmission
MSRP = 17,055
"Invoice" = 16142
2500 Customer Incentive + 500 FMCC Cash + 500 FMCC First Time Buyer Downpayment Match
 
Final price = (16,142 - 3,500) = 12,642 + Tax, Doc
 
Is this the best I can expect to do, or have people been able to get better pricing than this?
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Re: Negotiating a price [deezwho] by explorerx4
Feb 25, 2007 (8:00 pm)
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Replying to: deezwho (Feb 25, 2007 12:45 pm)

you should be able to do better. at least make a counter offer, or get a price from another dealer.

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