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Re: 2007 SES w/options [questsl] by rasldasl
Oct 18, 2006 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: questsl (Oct 18, 2006 12:57 pm)

Some people are reporting getting better than X-plan just by shopping around. Since you don't have a trade you don't have to worry about getting taken on the value of it. The other advantage of X-plan is that dealer can not charge documentation and advertising fees. If you can get a better deal, take it. If not, X-plan price is good enough.
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Re: 2007 SES w/options [questsl] by jfritsch
Oct 18, 2006 (2:00 pm)
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Replying to: questsl (Oct 18, 2006 12:57 pm)

Purchase the fightingchance.com package. Read it and solicit bids from 15-20 dealers via fax or email toward the end of the month. Several people posted purchases of $4500 off msrp for a Focus. Don't get caught up in invoice x plan etc dealer fees etc. The lowest price otd is the lowest price otd.
 
--jjf
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Re: 2007 SES w/options [questsl] by explorerx4
Oct 18, 2006 (4:55 pm)
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Replying to: questsl (Oct 18, 2006 12:57 pm)

if the dealer that has the car you are looking at will provide internet quotes, i would do that first.
tell them you are looking to replace your totaled focus with a new one. see what happens. they might appreciate your loyalty.
one thing to watch out for if you go into the dealer and tell them you are eligible for x-plan, is they might say 'we are going to give you x-plan price'. the subtle difference i missed was that they charged the doc fee, which you don't have to pay using x-plan. it was not when buying my focus. the internet quote i got on it was lower than x-plan. good luck find a new car.
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Re: 2005 Focus Base Model [rwhaugen] by quietspirit
Nov 11, 2006 (4:11 pm)
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Replying to: rwhaugen (May 12, 2005 8:34 am)

I'm suspicious about the same sales pitch, too! I'm looking at an ad about the 2007 Ford Focus on sale with lots of rebates and markdowns on it. The net price is $8995. It didn't indicate whether the vehicles had manual or automatic transmitions. Being a first-time carbuyer, I assumed the price were for all the models regardless if it were manual or automatic. Then when I call the dealership, a salesperson said the $8995 is base models only, meaning minus some equipment the usual consumer might want, and are for manual transmissions only. I thought that the ad was deceiving. I don't know. Should I go to the dealership anyway and show a salesperson the ad and try to convince them to give me a 2007 Ford Focus with an automatic transmition, or forget about it? ">
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Re: Ford salesman says "can't haggle on employee price [lost] by quietspirit
Nov 11, 2006 (4:21 pm)
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Replying to: lost (Aug 09, 2005 3:22 pm)

I'm looking at an ad on the 2007 Ford Focus with lots of rebates and markdowns on it. The net price is $8995. Called the dealership and the salesperson said it's for a base model only with manual transmition. I'm looking for one with an automatic transmition and the salesperson said that I would have to pay more for it. I felt that the ad was deceiving because it didn't indicate whether the cars were manual or automatic. Being a first-time car buyer, I didn't think it would matter. Should I go to the dealership, show the salesperson the ad, and try to convince the dealership to sell me a car with an automatic transmition at the advertised price, or forget about it?
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Re: Thank you Jfritsch! [lavariel] by quietspirit
Nov 11, 2006 (8:02 pm)
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Replying to: lavariel (Sep 13, 2006 11:38 pm)

Thanks for the tip on the $500 first time buyer down payment match. How long does this promotion last? I wander if it's available in California.
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Re: Thank you Jfritsch! [quietspirit] by explorerx4
Nov 12, 2006 (5:17 am)
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Replying to: quietspirit (Nov 11, 2006 8:02 pm)

you need to do some homework, but it is pretty easy.
you can find out lots of info by looking under the 'new car' tab here on edmunds.
try forddirect.com for info on specific vehicles.
you can check the incentives for your area there too.
i think the 's' model has air conditioning optional.
my guess is, that's a bit higher priority than transmission type, for you.
as far as the advirtising, i don't think it is misleading.
if a grocery store had a 6 pack of soda for a dollar, would you assume the the 12, 16, and 20 ounce sizes would all be included?
good luck shopping and post about what happens; shopping experience, car you bought, etc..
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Re: 2007 SES w/options [explorerx4] by quietspirit
Nov 13, 2006 (8:22 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Oct 18, 2006 4:55 pm)

I didn't quite understand your message because I'm a first-time buyer. I thought I heard someone tell me that the doc fee is not negotiable. Are you saying that it is? Who or what is your source? Educate me so I feel as though I have some power when I negotiate with a dealer. I have an x-plan through my employer to buyer a Ford vehicle at a discount. To be able to eliminate any unnecessary fees for using the x-plan would be fabulous!
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Re: 2007 SES w/options [quietspirit] by alamocity
Nov 14, 2006 (11:06 am)
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Replying to: quietspirit (Nov 13, 2006 8:22 pm)

Depends on how you define document fee. Have you gone to your state's DMV page to check what the price is on fees charged by your state? California has a good calculator showing the various mandatory fees and can be found at https://mv.dmv.ca.gov/FeeCalculatorWeb/newVehicleForm.do
I will say to be cautious of ads in newspapers offering a vehicle at a low, low price as most times they are too good to be true. I suggest going to this web site as it offers some great advice for new car buyers as I think this will help you
http://www.carbuyingtips.com
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Re: 2007 SES w/options [quietspirit] by rasldasl
Nov 14, 2006 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: quietspirit (Nov 13, 2006 8:22 pm)

The "DOC" or documentation fee is a line item the dealers usually pre-print on the sales contract to make you think it is not negotiable. It is basically a profit-maker for them, they are asking you to pay them to do the paperwork on the sale of the car. Could you imagine any other type of business charging you to do paperwork? Would you pay extra at the grocery store for them to give you a receipt?
 
Anyway, the point is that everything is negotiable, including the DOC fee. One of the advantages of X-plan is that the dealer is NOT ALLOWED by Ford to charge a documentation fee. The disadvantage comes in on a car that can sometimes be bought for a lower negotiated price than X-plan. Say the price on X-plan is $12,500 with no DOC fee but you can, without mentioning you have an X-plan PIN, get them to sell the same car for $12,000 plus charge a $200 DOC fee. Obviously, the X-plan will cost you more. Shop for the best price and then ask for X-plan only if you can't do better. Go to fordpartner.com and use your X-plan partner code to look up the price on the car you want to buy.

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