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45 messages, Last post on Jan 13, 2009 at 3:42 PM
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Replying to: poncho167 (Oct 02, 2008 4:42 pm) |
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Replying to: jpf (Oct 02, 2008 10:03 pm) I have driven the Canyon/Colorado's and like them fine. I would get the base four banger. The truck has had some issues for sure with the valve seals and the front suspension but overall its an ok truck. My nephew has a 2005 I5 that has been trouble free. Not all the trucks have defects luckily. |
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Replying to: jpf (Oct 02, 2008 10:03 pm) I am a little turned off by how unrefined the interior is but the truck itself is more than capable and frankly, right now, I would also like to just support an American car manufacturer. Anybody else have any thoughts on the V8? I know most think it's pointless at this time in the economy, but that's part of the reason I'm buying, it might be a fairly rare truck if no one else buys the V8. |
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Replying to: fheiser (Jan 04, 2009 7:53 am)
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Replying to: fheiser (Jan 04, 2009 7:53 am) With the whole auto industry suffering (not just American) including Toyota's historical downslide, people are being very cautious with unneccessary purchases. I also feel that people are starting to feel guilty by purchasing Japanese vehicles because they are no better than domestic American products in most segments. |
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Replying to: jpf (Jan 04, 2009 6:56 pm) That V8 engine option in the Colorado will return much better mileage than a Chrysler Hemi. |
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Replying to: fheiser (Jan 04, 2009 7:53 am) They are more competitive in heavy equipment and earthmoving equipment plants where their higher salaries are more justifiable. Years and years of making a profit on trucks, and losing money on all the passenger cars, just keeping up market share. With 1000's of suppliers everwhere, supplying american workers in "foreign" plants in the south, vs "domestic" in the north, with some auto's (pontiacs vibe and toyota's matrix) actually made in the same plant. The only thing that distinguishes them is the chrome plastic emblem on the grille and the trunk, and thats probably made in China. The Colorado is the worst example I know of. Any test drive comparison between the Frontier and Tacoma will put them way out front in all areas, especially for the same price. The Dakota V8 possibly if you have to tow, but it may be too expensive. The Colorado ranks just ahead of the 18 year old Ford Ranger, which isn't saying much. Go with the others even if you have a lot of GM points. Good luck --jjf
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Replying to: jfritsch (Jan 12, 2009 9:50 am) Until the gas companies raised gas prices to $4.00 per gallon, the Big 3, including GM were doing okay. The UAW has given lots of concessions in the last 20 years to try and make the Big 3 more viable, and the quality of domestic vehicles has shot up, surpassing some imports in the same class of vehicle. GM trucks (GMC and Chevrolet) have outsold all trucks in the U.S. for years and years, they have the best mpg in their class today, for years they have had a very high resale value. Malibu is higher rated than the imports in quality and I believe owner satisfaction? Canyon and Colorado may have some issues, but if you look at the forums here and elsewhere, their competition have problems also. Anti-American sentiments about vehicles or other issues are a big part of what is wrong with our economy today. It isn't enough for some people that the UAW and Big 3 have made huge strides in quality, design, mpg, and durability, while still having a living wage, with decent benefits, some people just like to bash American made products and workers. To those who bash the UAW and it's workers, keep in mind, they have donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to the American public over the years through United Way, Christmas donations, thanksgiving food giveaways, gate collections for burn out victims, etc.
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Replying to: 04cad (Jan 13, 2009 8:21 am) No 3 skilled trades taking 8 days to coordinate their busy schedules to change a light bulb. No union grievances from some hack finding a saleried man changing his own lightbulb. Union work rules, artificial in many cases to keep headcount high are extinct. Those of us who were involved with the U.S industry and saw the UAW are amazed they kept the ball in the air this long. UAW will survive in heavy industry, trucks, heavy equipment where their higher wages can be justified. GM trucks (GMC and Chevrolet) have outsold all trucks in the U.S. for years and years, they have the best mpg in their class today, for years they have had a very high resale value. Malibu is higher rated than the imports in quality and I believe owner satisfaction? Great trucks-- Silverado and F series can take on all comers.. no doubt. Colorado is a miserable entry to the mid- size market. Problem is they lose money on everything else with this business model. Without the big trucks they are bankrupt. Whether the mediocre passenger cars or the better ones like Malibu, the profits aren't there. It's irrelevant what Malibu or others rate, if it can't be sold at a profit and costs are too high.(and you need profits to pay health benefits for employees and retirees. ) Big fan of the American worker. Big skeptic of many of the 7% or so captive in private sector unions like AFl-CIO, Teamsters, and of course the worst -- UAW. Of course the Democrats in Govt who get their cut of union payroll thru dues and political contributions probably didn't help either. Good luck --jjf Anti-American sentiments about vehicles or other issues are a big part of what is wrong with our economy today. It isn't enough for some people that the UAW and Big 3 have made huge strides in quality, design, mpg, and durability, while still having a living wage, with decent benefits, some people just like to bash American made products and workers. ...living wage.... decent benefits..... $70/hr labor costs, the most gold plated benefits for high school graduates and retiress out there.... and you're babbling about a "living wage" and "decent" benefits. The average shmuck, many with college is out there for about $28.00/hr union or not. because the import companies don't have the retiree burden and are more profitable, doesn't make the Big 3 or UAW wrong in having that obligation No, very wrong .....if they're unrealistic there is no obligation. Bankruptcy and bye bye. No company no obligation. This is true whether the retiree on a company pension is union or not. |
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