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#725 of 738 - by dudleyr Feb 10, 2009 (6:30 pm)
If I recall correctly this is dead. It seems the automatic diesel did not pass 50 state emmissions so they pulled the plug. The stick shift did, but they won't bother for such small numbers. Too bad - I would have snagged a stick with the diesel.
#726 of 738 Re: How dead is the project? [bornabruin] by blufz1 Feb 28, 2009 (7:14 am)
Replying to: bornabruin (Dec 12, 2008 2:10 pm) Dead as a door nail. Honda says it flunked the U.S. emissions test. However, they have redone the engine to make 170 hp and 280 ft. lbs. of torque. Maybe Honda will try it again, Replies to this message: quips (Feb 28, 2009 12:38 pm) blufz1 (Mar 03, 2009 8:19 am) nippononly (Mar 03, 2009 2:43 pm)
#727 of 738 Re: How dead is the project? [blufz1] by quips Feb 28, 2009 (12:38 pm)
Replying to: blufz1 (Feb 28, 2009 7:14 am) Consumer Guide Automotive said that 2010 Honda CRV may have a 2.2 liter diesel.   Vehicle Highlights The 2010 Honda CR-V may receive a diesel engine. This five-passenger compact SUV should continue to be available with front-wheel drive or all-wheel drive. Trim levels should include LX, EX, and top-line EX-L with leather upholstery. All should have a 166-hp 2.4-liter 4-cylinder engine and a 5-speed automatic transmission. A new 2.2-liter diesel 4-cylinder would make 138 hp. Maximum towing capacity should be 1500 lb with the gasoline engine. Available safety features should include ABS, traction control, antiskid system, curtain side airbags, and front side airbags. A power driver seat and dual-zone automatic climate control should be standard on EX-L. A navigation system would also likely remain available on EX-L. Versions so equipped will be priced as separate models. This report is based on evaluations of the 2009 Honda CR-V. Replies to this message: blufz1 (Mar 03, 2009 8:19 am) nippononly (Mar 03, 2009 2:43 pm)
#728 of 738 Re: How dead is the project? [quips] by blufz1 Mar 03, 2009 (8:19 am)
Replying to: quips (Feb 28, 2009 12:38 pm) That's old news. Honda put the diesel on hold. The new news is that the 2.2 now make 30 more horsepower and 20 more ft. pounds of torque. The newest news,is that Honda put the diesel on hold for business reasons: Not becuase it could not comply w/EPA as Honda originally stated. Which means: We may see a better Honda diesel in the distant future, Replies to this message: nippononly (Mar 03, 2009 2:43 pm)
#729 of 738 Re: How dead is the project? [blufz1] by nippononly Mar 03, 2009 (2:43 pm)
Replying to: blufz1 (Mar 03, 2009 8:19 am) That future is truly distant, very distant.....
#730 of 738 A pipe dream by bornabruin Mar 10, 2009 (12:58 pm)
The 2.2 TDi engine had so much potential I was hoping that Honda might go back and re-engineer the emissions. It I may turn on the "Way Back" machine, I remember Honda using the stratified charge CVCC engines without catalytic converters but then was forced to go add them when the emissions laws made it impossible for them to pass without them. I wonder if this is a similar situation, instead this time needing to incorporate other technologies such as urea injection (I wonder if their 2 step cataytic converter system, while cool technology, just couldn't get things clean enough. OTOH, I'm sure I'm greatly oversimplifying this whole thing.   IMHO, we are seeing the effect of electing Mr. Obama -- they handed emissions controls to the states so instead of having one really good standard to run to, we can now have 50 different standards for the automakers to conform to. Just the thing automakers on the edge of bankrupcy need...
#731 of 738 So what now for the Accord? by bornabruin Mar 10, 2009 (1:00 pm)
So what is Honda going to do for a high mileage option for the Accord line? Might they go for a new hybrid drivetrain with a smaller 4 and electric assist?
#732 of 738 - by dudleyr Mar 24, 2009 (6:56 am)
Obama was not in office when Honda killed the diesel.   Emissions are still federal, but states can choose to have higher standards _ like California et all.   States have always had control over enforcing emissions. In SD there are no emissions inspections at all. No safety inspections either for that matter. In fact I don't have a single sticker on my windshield.
#733 of 738 US diesel is officially dead by jaxs1 Apr 05, 2009 (6:01 pm)
http://www.leftlanenews.com/honda-abandons-diesels-in-favor-of-hybrids.html Replies to this message: gagrice (Apr 05, 2009 7:36 pm) blufz1 (Apr 08, 2009 6:48 am) jhinsc (Apr 09, 2009 3:31 am)
#734 of 738 Re: US diesel is officially dead [jaxs1] by gagrice Apr 05, 2009 (7:36 pm)
Replying to: jaxs1 (Apr 05, 2009 6:01 pm) That sounds kind of dumb. There hybrids are not all that great. The Accord was a total flop. They could not give the old Insight away. The Civic is only marginally successful. With Toyota matching the price of the new Honda Insight who will buy it over the proven Prius? I think Honda is losing their edge. They have increasingly lost out and missed the mark. They should have stuck with diesels at least for their large vehicles. Replies to this message: blufz1 (Apr 08, 2009 6:48 am) jhinsc (Apr 09, 2009 3:31 am)

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