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Re: Cancellation of US Diesel [quips] by gagrice
Oct 29, 2008 (5:29 am)
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Replying to: quips (Oct 28, 2008 8:17 am)

I'll investigate the Subaru for my next vehicle.
 
Don't hold your breath. I have wanted a small diesel PU truck since 1998. So far no company has brought one to the USA. VW is the only company that has been able to pass all the emissions to sell in all 50 states with a mid priced vehicle. Mercedes and BMW have passed the tests and will offer several pricey diesel rigs this year in all the states.
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Re: Cancellation of US Diesel [gagrice] by nippononly
Oct 30, 2008 (6:36 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 29, 2008 5:29 am)

Right now Subaru's diesel is only at the 43-state emissions compliance level, and apparently they are holding off spending the money to bring it to a 50-state standard.
 
So your predictions will probably prove to be uncannily accurate gagrice - all the much-vaunted and well-advertised forays into diesel by the Japanese companies will come to naught, at least before 2010. And that's too bad.
 
Word on the TSX is that they will now put a V-6 in instead of the diesel that failed certification with the automatic. You know, the manual passed - wouldn't it be cool if they sold TSX and Accord diesel manuals while they improved the emissions of the automatics?
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Re: Cancellation of US Diesel [nippononly] by gagrice
Oct 30, 2008 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 30, 2008 6:36 am)

Word on the TSX is that they will now put a V-6
 
I just read that. Does Honda think because gas prices are back down that we want another gas guzzling V6? I realize that is the only way they can get the torque of a 4 cylinder diesel. Maybe they should try a little harder instead of making excuses. Oh well I would not have been interested in anything smaller than a Pilot diesel anyway.
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Re: Release date? [biker4] by bornabruin
Nov 10, 2008 (10:28 am)
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Replying to: biker4 (Oct 25, 2008 5:46 am)

I wonder why Honda used the 5AT instead of the 6AT? They could play with the gear ratios to get the same ranges as the 6MT. How far off was the 5AT version? One wonders why they would send a car for certification that wouldn't pass. When a car fails certification, do they get additional attempts or do they have to wait for next year?
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Correction on the transmission by bornabruin
Nov 10, 2008 (10:39 am)
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I read the Left Lane news article and Honda was using the 6AT for the certification. Too bad they couldn't meet the standards.
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Re: Release date? [bornabruin] by gagrice
Nov 10, 2008 (12:15 pm)
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Replying to: bornabruin (Nov 10, 2008 10:28 am)

One wonders why they would send a car for certification that wouldn't pass. When a car fails certification
 
I wondered the same thing. They have all the test criteria. In fact they may have even done the testing. It is all pretty hushed up by Honda. I think it could be the exchange rate or any number of excuses.
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Re: Release date? [gagrice] by bornabruin
Nov 10, 2008 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 10, 2008 12:15 pm)

My question now is what is Honda going to put in the "Camry and Altima" market segment? Their last attempt at a hybrid didn't pay attention to why people buy hybrid cars i.e. high mileage... .
 
OTOH, I don't understand how their 2.4L engine only gets 1-2 better MPG than the six which is a liter larger in displacement, but I'm getting off topic...
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Re: Release date? [bornabruin] by jaxs1
Nov 10, 2008 (9:14 pm)
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Replying to: bornabruin (Nov 10, 2008 2:09 pm)

In the real world, most people are seeing much more than 1-2 mpg difference between 4 and 6 if they do much city driving. On the highway, it may not be much difference.
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- by dudleyr
Nov 12, 2008 (6:44 am)
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Consumer Reports got the i4 at 3 mpg better than the v6 overall. The diff is greater in the city.
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Just 3 MPG? by bornabruin
Dec 12, 2008 (1:29 pm)
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Replying to: dudleyr (Nov 12, 2008 6:44 am)

Seeing as the 4 cyl is giving up aboutt a liter of displacement to the 6 cyl engine, I'm not sure why you wouldn't see a greater difference. Could this be weight related i.e. you have to expend x number of horsepower to push y number of pounds and the 4 works pretty hard to do that while the 6 does not?

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