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Re: [ppellico] by nippononly
Aug 12, 2008 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: ppellico (Aug 12, 2008 6:17 am)

It's still more than a year away.
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Re: [nippononly] by thegraduate
Aug 12, 2008 (11:41 am)
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Hasn't it been "a year away" for awhile now? I feel like Honda is being like Ford with the new 3.5L that was to debut in the Ford Five Hundred, Lincoln Zephyr, et. al. It's right around the corner...ALWAYS.
 
Maybe I'm wrong, but it sure seems like they have been on the cusp of releasing this car for awhile now. I'm pretty positive I remember the 2009 Accord and CR-V were to get a diesel, a little while ago.
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Re: [thegraduate] by nippononly
Aug 12, 2008 (6:41 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 12, 2008 11:41 am)

No, people were just misstating that. It was always calendar year 2009. It will be after the diesel TSX arrives, which I think is June/July.
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Re: [nippononly] by malmouza
Aug 20, 2008 (6:33 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Aug 12, 2008 6:41 pm)

I agree, people were just misinterpreting the news. The European Accord which is the Acura TSX in USA will be the first to get the old 2.0 engine fitted in the European Accord, with added latest catalytic converter system to pass the US emission. The Accord diesel will come early 2009 calendar year. But I did hear that Honda is anxious to speed up the release of the new diesel accord, after they noticed the success of the new Jetta diesel; people are on waiting list for up to 6 months to get the Jetta diesel.
The other thing Honda will be releasing the new Hybrid that will compete against Prius, in 2009 calendar year. That may kill the sells for the Accord diesel, if the mileage is 60 MPG and the price of the new Honda hybrid is $18,5000. I know that all dealer will get a large number of this vehicle since Honda will be allocating 100,000 car for US the first year, not like the Jetta, that they are producing only 20,000 TDI for USA.
Another thing that people they don’t know about Honda; Honda have been making Diesel engine for a long time, there engine is proven reliable over many years in other parts of the world. The other thing is the part supplier for the injection system for both VW and Honda is Bosch.
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Re: [malmouza] by nippononly
Aug 20, 2008 (8:45 pm)
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Replying to: malmouza (Aug 20, 2008 6:33 am)

The other thing Honda will be releasing the new Hybrid that will compete against Prius, in 2009 calendar year. That may kill the sells for the Accord diesel, if the mileage is 60 MPG and the price of the new Honda hybrid is $18,5000
 
Yes, but the new hybrid is a 5-door hatch, not everyone's cup of tea, and will be much smaller than the Accord. Think: they have been planning the Accord diesel for quite a while, all the while selling the Civic hybrid, which will be a much closer competitor. Indeed, those two MAY cannibalize each other a bit, although I expect there will be a solid $4000-5000 in price difference between them.
 
And really, we can't be SURE yet that diesel and hybrid buyers will cross-shop with the other. Those two camps might be mostly mutually exclusive.
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Re: [nippononly] by malmouza
Aug 22, 2008 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Aug 20, 2008 8:45 pm)

That is true the new Honda hybrid as I stated before in this forum is a smaller that the Civic; it is a commuter car, not a midsize car like the Prius. You’re right, a lot of Diesel fanatics will never consider the Hybrid, and the Accord diesel will snatch old VW diesel customers, specially the new accord will be produced in big quantity than the Jetta diesel. Nobody want to put down payment for a new car and wait for 6 months, if they have choice from other manufacturers. I will have to say that Honda if they put the 2.2L 160HP and 260 lb. ft of torque diesel engine in the Odyssey, it would be a big winner. The fuel mileage will be in the range 33 MPG, that is a lot better than the VCM engine used now that return only marginal 25 MPG.
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Re: [malmouza] by blufz1
Aug 22, 2008 (12:44 pm)
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Replying to: malmouza (Aug 22, 2008 7:26 am)

A 2.2 4 cyl. is not enough motor for the Odyssey. It's getting the V6 diesel
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Re: [blufz1] by nippononly
Aug 22, 2008 (10:23 pm)
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Replying to: blufz1 (Aug 22, 2008 12:44 pm)

They should offer both diesels in the Odyssey and just drop the gas engines with their terrible fuel economy entirely.
 
And the 2.2 diesel not enough power for the Odyssey?? Don't be silly - with 260 ft-lb of torque, the thing would be the perfect around-town van with the smaller engine, and probably pull 30 mpg or better the whole time.
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Re: [nippononly] by thegraduate
Aug 22, 2008 (10:37 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Aug 22, 2008 10:23 pm)

I'm thinking the mini-freightliner sound might upset the other soccer moms in the carpool line at school.
 
You must admit, the 3.5L does have a sweet sound when revving up, and has some nice high-end pull!
 
In the land of $3.49 gas and $4.29 diesel, the gas engine needs to stay. My $.02!
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What about maintenance? by imscf
Aug 23, 2008 (12:25 pm)
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Does a Diesel engine require additional maintenance, like more often oil and spark plug changes?

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