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- by dudleyr
Jul 22, 2008 (5:30 am)
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The CRV actually takes more power to maintain speed on the highway than the new Accord. It is barely lighter and has worse aerodynamics.
 
I think a 4-cyl would do fine in an Accord. The people buying diesels would likely not care.
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Re: 2009 Model-Year Accord Diesel Makes Complete Business Sense [blufz1] by gagrice
Jul 22, 2008 (6:49 am)
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Replying to: blufz1 (Jul 21, 2008 9:00 pm)

The 4 cylinder diesel has to have more torque than the 4 cylinder gas engine. My understanding is most Accords are bought with 4C gas engine. The Accord should be capable of 50 MPG highway with a 4C diesel. The MB GL320 CDI is only a 3L diesel and it has way more than enough acceleration in that 5300 lb 7 passenger SUV. To me anything over a 4C diesel in a car is overkill. There is no way the Accord will compete with the BMW 335D so why waste the fuel? If you are after stop light acceleration just get the V6 Gas Accord. The 2.2L Honda diesel has 250 ft lbs of torque. Almost 100 ft lbs more than their 2.4L gas engine. That should push that 3400 lb boat on down the road fine.
 
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Re: 2009 Model-Year Accord Diesel Makes Complete Business Sense [gagrice] by nippononly
Jul 22, 2008 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 22, 2008 6:49 am)

Yeah, no question it will be the 4-cylinder, not the 6, when diesel finally arrives in the Accord. Which I am thinking is less than 18 months away now. Can you imagine if they used the V-6 diesel? Maybe they would have a competitor to the R8 on their hands!
 
Ford is claiming the next Fusion, also due in less than 18 months, will be the fuel economy leader in its class. In one short year Toyota and Honda have gone from having the fuel economy leaders in the midsize class to being almost at the bottom. Honda NEEDS this new diesel, pronto.
 
As for the diesel V-6, I agree that Honda needs to get that one into the Pilot and the Ridgeline ASAP. Maybe make it the ONLY engine for the Ridgeline.
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Re: - [dudleyr] by blufz1
Jul 22, 2008 (8:15 am)
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Replying to: dudleyr (Jul 22, 2008 5:30 am)

Agree...........But........the engine bay on the CRV is designed for only a 4 cylinder engine. The new Accord engine bay will accomodate a 6 cylinder V block. So it's much less cost/time to fit a diesel of the proper size to the already existing properly sized engine bay. Diesel engines weigh 150 pounds more than an equally sized gasser so that's also a factor. Honda is only building 2 diesels, the 4 and the 6, so it will be interesting to see in which cars the 4 and the 6 ultimately appear. The 6 is first appearing in the ODY.
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Recall the Accord Hybrid by imscf
Jul 22, 2008 (10:25 am)
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Honda's Accord Hybrid, a 6-cylinder only, loaded with luxury, was a big bust, as it did not deliver the high mileage expected of a hybrid and was overpriced. Toyota did the smart move and introduced the Camry Hybrid as a 4-cylinder, and it is now a big seller.
Will Honda repeat the Hybrid mistake by introducing the Diesel as a 6-cylinder only, or has it learned its lesson?
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Re: Recall the Accord Hybrid [imscf] by blufz1
Jul 22, 2008 (11:47 am)
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Replying to: imscf (Jul 22, 2008 10:25 am)

You will ultimately be able to get the diesel 4 in the civic. If you can't wait, then get the TSX diesel coming in 2009.
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Re: Recall the Accord Hybrid [imscf] by nippononly
Jul 22, 2008 (4:55 pm)
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Replying to: imscf (Jul 22, 2008 10:25 am)

There's no way the Accord will have a 6-cylinder diesel unless they offer BOTH 4- and 6-cylinder diesels and drop the V-6 gas.
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Re: Recall the Accord Hybrid [nippononly] by blufz1
Jul 22, 2008 (6:36 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 22, 2008 4:55 pm)

Well,then, you better tell that to Left Lane News 'cause they are reporting the V6 Diesel in the Accord.
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Re: Recall the Accord Hybrid [blufz1] by gagrice
Jul 23, 2008 (4:47 am)
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Replying to: blufz1 (Jul 22, 2008 6:36 pm)

Here is what left lane news has on the Accord diesel:
 
Honda has officially announced that it will add a diesel option to the U.S. Accord range for 2009. Earlier reports indicated that Honda would offer diesel power for 2009, although it was unclear which model or models would receive the option. The diesel engine will be the same 2.2L unit found in the European Accord.
 
That makes a lot more sense than a V6 diesel. This car will beat the socks off the Camry hybrid. That is what Honda needs.
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Re: Recall the Accord Hybrid [gagrice] by blufz1
Jul 23, 2008 (6:09 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 23, 2008 4:47 am)

What's the date of your report? This is obviously and older report. The V6 diesel in the Accord report was dated 7/11/08 as I recall.

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