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Future Vehicles Honda Accord Diesel????
738 messages, Last post on Apr 09, 2009 at 5:07 AM
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Replying to: kmil (Feb 13, 2008 2:38 pm)
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Replying to: biker4 (Feb 16, 2008 11:14 am) http://world.honda.com/news/2008/4080211all-new-Accord-for-Europe/
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Replying to: donegal (Feb 18, 2008 10:43 am) |
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Replying to: ratbert1 (Jun 28, 2004 12:20 pm) |
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Replying to: mtlew (Jan 18, 2008 9:24 am) I want the Torque. The VW Tiguan will tow 2 1/2 Tons...which is amazing. That's what diesel is known for aside from a third better mileage....and you can make it yourself and you're not as dependant on people who don't like us. My dream is a SUV type not so big w/ good towing and with Tier2 Bin5 clean Diesel matched with Hybrid= 40-60 mpg. This is Doable. I'm impatient. |
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From a business standpoint, Honda really needs to get the diesel into the 2009-model year Accord. I'm sure the current Camry, Altima, Aura and Malibu Hybrids, or even the regular gas-powered engines of these models, are really dipping into its core business with the increase in gas prices and the fact that the 2008 Accord, with it's body-size growth, isn't nearly as fuel efficient as consumers had hoped and come to expect from Honda. For consumers to move down to a Civic for fuel efficiency takes them out of the "family" car segment, and for consumers to upgrade to an Acura TSX for a diesel does not make sense for a few different reasons: Thus, the consumer's only other current option would be to turn to other manufacturers' offerings. Additionally, there are numerous new offerings coming to market in CY2009 that Honda really needs to compete with to remain viable as a fuel-efficient family-sized car manufacturer (namely a Fusion hybrid and Jetta diesel). I cannot imagine the folks at Honda have not planned for this (if they haven't, I will be very disappointed), and with diesel technology already tried and tested in Europe with great success for many, many years now, there really isn't much pressure to bring a diesel engine to the NA market in the Accord with gas prices being at their current levels with no expectation of them decreasing significantly below the current levels ever again (maybe $2.50 or $3.00 per gallon, but that's about it). Yes, diesel prices are definitely higher than gas prices, but that has not always been the case, and they are usually parallel in their price movement, so if one goes up, the other will likely go up, and vice versa. Even if diesel prices did stay higher than unleaded prices, you are talking about $0.80/gallon more right now in the northeast which, on a 15-gallon fill-up, would only cost you another $12/fill-up to gain on average 10 to 15 more miles per gallon. Figure it this way, if you get 350 miles on a 15-gallon tank at $4.00/gallon of unleaded fuel, you are spending roughly $.17/mile. If you average 10 more miles per gallon (probably worst-case scenario) with a diesel engine, you would get 500 miles on a 15-gallon tank. At $4.80/gallon of diesel fuel, you would be spending roughly $.14/mile, $0.03/mile better than a regular gasoline engine, and remember again that this is probably a worst-case scenario. Thoughts??
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Replying to: beerbaronhomer (Jul 18, 2008 7:54 am)
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Replying to: blufz1 (Jul 18, 2008 3:16 pm) It's just the latest in a mile-long list over the years of Honda keeping things close to its chest. You watch: by Christmas next year Accord diesels will be for sale. Honda needs a more fuel-efficient Accord ASAP, its lunch is getting eaten by everyone, even CHEVY for goodness' sake. |
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 21, 2008 5:55 pm) PS The V6 diesel in the Ody and Pilot would be good. |
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 21, 2008 5:55 pm)
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