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Honda / Acura diesels by nanorapture
Jan 18, 2008 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: mtlew (Jan 18, 2008 9:24 am)

News links:
 
http://www.autosavant.net/2007/10/honda-accord-diesel-and-new-hybrid.html
 
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31947
 
It is now unclear if the new diesels will debut in Sept. 2008 or Sept. 2009. The above links just add to the confusion with news of the diesel V6 coming in 2009.
 
Now there are rumors that the Honda diesel engine will debut in an Acura. That will be a very bad choice for Honda. Acura buyers are usually more into bling status and performance than diesel gas mileage.
 
Putting the diesel enigne into the full line of Accords will sell a lot more vehicles and will allow diesel to become acceptable to the US novice diesel buyer faster.
 
Last I heard the VW diesels were still coming out Sept. 2008.
 
Now I am starting to wonder if Honda is playing games with the multiple, constantly changing announcements of the diesel engine release date to keep VW and other competitors guessing. Their announcements now sure have me guessing in confusion when the true release dates are.
 
We'll just have to kick back and wait another 6 months before we know anything definitive on release dates.
 
The Honda hydbrid and electric vehicles are also being kept secret as to their release dates.
 
We need more high mileage vehicles here in the US NOW!!!!!
 
-nano
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Re: Is This a Misprint? [mtlew] by blufz1
Jan 18, 2008 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: mtlew (Jan 18, 2008 9:43 am)

Yes,it's on inside line latest news from Detroit. it's a few days old so scroll down a few screens. Honda clean diesel,etc. Possible, I guess, as the 3.5 gasser V6 obviously fits.
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Acura Diesel Link by nanorapture
Jan 18, 2008 (10:07 am)
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Replying to: nanorapture (Jan 18, 2008 9:59 am)

sorry, forgot this link about the Acura Diesel:
 
http://blogs.edmunds.com/GreenCarAdvisor/173
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Disagree by moparbad
Jan 18, 2008 (12:39 pm)
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That will be a very bad choice for Honda. Acura buyers are usually more into bling status and performance than diesel gas mileage.
 
Acura does not stand out for performance nor bling.
Acura is technology,sensible, reliable, understated luxury.
 
Diesel will offer very, very high levels of power (torque) while delivering high mpg which should fit in well with Acura.
 
BMW and Mercedes are viewed as "status" brands to a much greater degree and they both are offering diesel engines in 2009 models.
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Re: But will it sell? [imscf] by biker4
Jan 20, 2008 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: imscf (Jan 18, 2008 2:06 am)

I agree - the diesel I4 should be available in the Accord.
 
If MB can keep the diesel premium to less than 1K (E350 vs. E3230CDI) Honda should have no problem keeping the premium to less than that.
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Overnight parking in the cold by redvw
Jan 23, 2008 (9:14 am)
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Would the Honda diesel engine require a block heater for overnight parking in cold climates, or any other device to keep it warm? Could synthetic oil be a substitute for keeping the engine warm overnight?
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Re: Overnight parking in the cold [redvw] by qbrozen
Jan 23, 2008 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: redvw (Jan 23, 2008 9:14 am)

only if you are in a climate that requires a block heater for a gasser. diesels have come a long way since the '80s and no longer require any special consideration beyond that of a gasser counterpart.
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Re: Overnight parking in the cold [redvw] by ruking1
Jan 23, 2008 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: redvw (Jan 23, 2008 9:14 am)

These are good lead in questions. In regards to Honda diesels, that would depend. However no one in the states has had much HONDA diesel field experience.
 
Anyone considering a diesel should bone up on the requirements! I would take it a step further by hooking up with the diesel community. (see above for the lack of HONDA diesel experiences) #2 diesel fuel is "winterized". However, specific cold weather conditions (aka EXTREME) CAN call for extra ordinary measures, i.e., battery trickle (to fast) chargers, block heaters, anti gel winter additives.
 
Diesels in general require a much more robust battery. Since diesels have glo plugs, power requirements CAN/DO exceed a (similar) gassers battery's requirements.
 
While I have a guess as to how Honda will deal with this issue, VW's (altenators) do NOT charge the battery to 100% nor even 80%. Indeed even after LONG highway operation, it can take a trickle charger 4 or more hours to get the charge back to 80%. So when you add to that excess demands; such as, (pass low volume "radio" operation) higher wattage sound systems, plugs in such as cell phones, GPS, xenon lamps, WINTER , etc, etc, your battery might not be destined to last without trickle charging (watching).
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Re: -Can't wait that long! [dudleyr] by bob757fl
Jan 23, 2008 (4:27 pm)
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Replying to: dudleyr (Jan 15, 2008 4:29 pm)

"That is huge. My father has been nursing his Passat along until the Accord diesel came out. He can't wait another year though. He was planning on September (or hopefully sooner).
  
Looks like a Jetta will have to do. "
 
Dudleyr, I know EXACTLY how he feels. My 1998 Accord V6 now has 236,000 miles on it and have been counting on the Accord diesel by the end of this year. At 25,000 miles/year, 2 more years is a little more than I really want to do. Its coming due for timing belt #3, and all that goes with it. Another $1000 easy. Come on Honda!! Give us the next generation accord!
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Re: -Can't wait that long! [bob757fl] by kmil
Feb 13, 2008 (2:38 pm)
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Replying to: bob757fl (Jan 23, 2008 4:27 pm)

I just read an article about the Honda Tourer coming out in '09. My question is Honda going to have a DIESEL in either the '08 or '09 and will there be one in the Accord as originally stated?
 
Pls reply to: kmil123msn.com

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