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- by dudleyr
May 03, 2005 (10:24 am)
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Put me on the list.
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Re: HondaDiesel in the USA--- Near Future [dewey] by biker4
May 16, 2005 (12:23 am)
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Replying to: dewey (May 03, 2005 8:50 am)

Today Europeans love diesel Accords and CRVs as much as North Americans love Toyota hybrids.

 The only reason for that is that there are no Toyota diesels in the US. Unless the hybrid markup comes down to diesel markup levels ($1K or less over a similar gas model) there no economic reason to buy a hybrid.
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Re: HondaDiesel in the USA--- Near Future [biker4] by gagrice
May 16, 2005 (6:01 am)
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Replying to: biker4 (May 16, 2005 12:23 am)

Welcome to the Forum. It sounds like you are in tune with most of us on the Diesel threads. With ULSD on it's way to a gas station near you there is no reason the automakers should not give Americans the benefits of diesel that the rest of the world takes for granted.
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Re: HondaDiesel in the USA--- Near Future [gagrice] by biker4
May 16, 2005 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (May 16, 2005 6:01 am)

Done right, diesels will approach sales levels of Europe in the US also. Gas hybrids will be left in the dust as the niche market it is today (diesel hybrids are another story). It's not just the better milage that will win over drivers but the great torque that diesels provide. The only problem Honda will have is the current 2.2L is at the lower end of the acceptable power range in the bigger USDM Accord - but since milage will be the main point it would do great at that.A $20K LX that gets 40MPG would be very popular (and probably make more money for Honda than the HAH) despite the old negative image diesels have.
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Re: HondaDiesel in the USA--- Near Future [biker4] by dewey
May 16, 2005 (9:32 am)
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Replying to: biker4 (May 16, 2005 8:08 am)

" $20K LX that gets 40MPG would be very popular (and probably make more money for Honda than the HAH) despite the old negative image diesels have. "
 
I think the above is a great idea. I think Honda will sell the European Diesel Accord in N. America. In other words expect a pricey diesel TSX with a lot of standard equipment.
 
Personally I like your No-Frills diesel Accord approach much better.
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- by dudleyr
May 16, 2005 (10:39 am)
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Actually the NA Accord is lighter than the TSX so the diesel would actually be faster. I think the larger vehicle with a diesel makes more sence. It goes along with the whole maximum efficiency thing. More space less fuel. The TSX is not much larger than a Corolla (or the new Civic), and they get 40+ mpg with their gas engines.
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Re: - [dudleyr] by dewey
May 16, 2005 (11:00 am)
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Replying to: dudleyr (May 16, 2005 10:39 am)

Good point about the NA Accord. A fuel efficient diesel Civic would be very interesting--a bit too interesting when compared to a hybrid Civic.
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Readings on European Accord Diesel by timeshock
May 16, 2005 (1:42 pm)
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http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road_tests/?id=99
 
http://irishcar.com/hondadieselbb.htm
 
http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/031128/4/1t7p8.html
 
http://www.honda-acura.net/forums/showthread.php?t=92522
 
http://www.fleetnewsnet.co.uk/news/view_article.asp?art_ID=30
 
http://www.aiada.org/article.asp?id=20188
 
http://www.aiada.org/article.asp?id=21033
 
http://www.rte.ie/motors/2004/0227/honda.html
 
http://www.lutontoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=549&ArticleID=792332
 
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/grouptests/car/1112/honda_accord_22_ictdi_executive.html
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Re: Readings on European Accord Diesel [timeshock] by rl81
May 16, 2005 (4:25 pm)
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Replying to: timeshock (May 16, 2005 1:42 pm)

Look at these numbers:
340Nm (250 lb ft) torque at 2,000rpm
If I remember right the V6 Accord has about 213?? lb ft...at a higher rpm
0-60 9.1 seconds;
This is quite decend!!!
top speed 130mph;
wow...
combined consumption 5.4 l/100km (52.3mpg);
 
Overall these specs sound a little optimistic, but at least it gives us an idea what we MIGHT be able to expect. However, I want to see it first...
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Re: Readings on European Accord Diesel [rl81] by dewey
May 16, 2005 (6:47 pm)
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Replying to: rl81 (May 16, 2005 4:25 pm)

You are correct the mileage sounds way too optimistic! Go to any UK website and the mileage of any car sounds too optimistic!
 
Why?
 
Because they use the imperial version of mileage. An imperial mile is less than a US mile. What the exact conversion is, I dont know?

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