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#729 of 738 Re: How dead is the project? [blufz1] by nippononly Mar 03, 2009 (3:43 pm)
Replying to: blufz1 (Mar 03, 2009 9:19 am) That future is truly distant, very distant.....
#730 of 738 A pipe dream by bornabruin Mar 10, 2009 (1:58 pm)
The 2.2 TDi engine had so much potential I was hoping that Honda might go back and re-engineer the emissions. It I may turn on the "Way Back" machine, I remember Honda using the stratified charge CVCC engines without catalytic converters but then was forced to go add them when the emissions laws made it impossible for them to pass without them. I wonder if this is a similar situation, instead this time needing to incorporate other technologies such as urea injection (I wonder if their 2 step cataytic converter system, while cool technology, just couldn't get things clean enough. OTOH, I'm sure I'm greatly oversimplifying this whole thing.   IMHO, we are seeing the effect of electing Mr. Obama -- they handed emissions controls to the states so instead of having one really good standard to run to, we can now have 50 different standards for the automakers to conform to. Just the thing automakers on the edge of bankrupcy need...
#731 of 738 So what now for the Accord? by bornabruin Mar 10, 2009 (2:00 pm)
So what is Honda going to do for a high mileage option for the Accord line? Might they go for a new hybrid drivetrain with a smaller 4 and electric assist?
#732 of 738 - by dudleyr Mar 24, 2009 (7:56 am)
Obama was not in office when Honda killed the diesel.   Emissions are still federal, but states can choose to have higher standards _ like California et all.   States have always had control over enforcing emissions. In SD there are no emissions inspections at all. No safety inspections either for that matter. In fact I don't have a single sticker on my windshield.
#733 of 738 US diesel is officially dead by jaxs1 Apr 05, 2009 (7:01 pm)
http://www.leftlanenews.com/honda-abandons-diesels-in-favor-of-hybrids.html Replies to this message: gagrice (Apr 05, 2009 8:36 pm) blufz1 (Apr 08, 2009 7:48 am) jhinsc (Apr 09, 2009 4:31 am)
#734 of 738 Re: US diesel is officially dead [jaxs1] by gagrice Apr 05, 2009 (8:36 pm)
Replying to: jaxs1 (Apr 05, 2009 7:01 pm) That sounds kind of dumb. There hybrids are not all that great. The Accord was a total flop. They could not give the old Insight away. The Civic is only marginally successful. With Toyota matching the price of the new Honda Insight who will buy it over the proven Prius? I think Honda is losing their edge. They have increasingly lost out and missed the mark. They should have stuck with diesels at least for their large vehicles. Replies to this message: blufz1 (Apr 08, 2009 7:48 am) jhinsc (Apr 09, 2009 4:31 am)
#735 of 738 Re: US diesel is officially dead [gagrice] by blufz1 Apr 08, 2009 (7:48 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Apr 05, 2009 8:36 pm) Just put the 2.2 diesel in the Civic,CRV,and Accord and Honda meets the 35 mpg regs for those cars. No muss;No fuss. That's why I think we still may have a second chance at the Honda Diesel. Fingers crossed. Replies to this message: jhinsc (Apr 09, 2009 4:31 am)
#736 of 738 Re: US diesel is officially dead [blufz1] by jhinsc Apr 09, 2009 (4:31 am)
Replying to: blufz1 (Apr 08, 2009 7:48 am) I agree. Mercedes just introduced the E250 with a 2.2 liter diesel at the NY auto show. If they can do it, why can't Honda? If the E250 comes to the U.S., it's on my short list when my 08 V6 is up for replacement in 2011.
#737 of 738 diesel by quips Apr 09, 2009 (4:53 am)
I agree with that ... I saw that in the NY Times' coverage of the auto show and read about that. I'd wait it out as well. If Honda doesn't come around to reconsider the diesel, Honda will not be considered by me ;o)
#738 of 738 - by dudleyr Apr 09, 2009 (6:07 am)
From what I read the stickshift passed EPA and the Auto didn't. They should have just brought the stick over until the auto was ready. Could test the waters that way. Honda (and others) have had stick only in some sporty and/or niche vehicles. (Si, first Insight etc.)   Even if they didn't sell a bunch they could have still beaten their chest about having such an efficient large car available (should beat Camry Hybrid - especially on the road). It certainly would have been as popular as the ill conceived Accord Hybrid

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