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#85 of 97 Re: Where so I sign? [starboardside] by tbone5660 Aug 25, 2005 (1:51 pm)
Replying to: starboardside (Aug 25, 2005 10:38 am) And when was the last time ford sold a Shelby Cobra... They will not allocate the new Shelby based on the sales of the old Shelbys, its a new time and age. Dealerships have not been allocated their Shelbys yet. This is what I have said from the beginning. Every SVT dealer I have talked to in the state of TX and LA has told me that deposits are non-refundable. And what happens if there is a problem found, and they dont release the car at all? Then your stuck waiting till mid 2007 or 2008. Its very unlikely this late in time but what if. Replies to this message: starboardside (Oct 13, 2005 10:55 am)
#86 of 97 Re: Where so I sign? [tbone5660] by starboardside Oct 13, 2005 (10:55 am)
Replying to: tbone5660 (Aug 25, 2005 1:51 pm) Of course allocations will not be based on 1970 Shelby sales, but likely by a composite of previous Cobra and Mustang sales, as I stated. Non-refundable deposits are largely a myth. As a franchised, legitimate dealer, it is very difficult for us to justify keeping a deposit when the customer wants it back. No successful dealership (or other business) has built its reputation by stealing peoples money. Keeping someone's money without completing a contract is easily disputed in small claims court, if it ever got that far. If someone actually signs a non-refundable contract, it might be different. Dealerships are telling you its non-refundable to weed out the guys who are likely to want their money back. Its an unnecessary waste of time to go through the down payment process, and then refund it later. Having said that, a dealer can take money down at any time, regardless of allocations. Dealerships are independently owned businesses, and have rights granted to them by franchise law. The factory simply is not going to get involved ( and by franchise agreement, cannot get involved) at this level. True cases of fraud would be different. I am not trying to be-labor this point, I am simply stating that I own a franchised dealership, am bound by franchise law and contract, and a lot of the stuff on this forum is simply not true. Successful dealerships have very little, if any, factory involvement in their day-to-day operations.
#87 of 97 Do the Math $$$ by pony_pirate Nov 19, 2005 (6:36 pm)
Went down and talked to the dealer face-to-face about the GT500. First, they don't know anything about colors, options, MSRP, anything for sure.   Second, this guy guessed MSRP would be low to mid $40's, not the under $40 bandied about here.   Third, he wanted a 5% markup over MSRP, whatever that turns out to be -- the markup is in the written contract. This, of course, is on top of the 10-11% markup they already get, the difference between dealer cost and MSRP, wholesale and retail.   Paying a markup of 15-16% is a deal-breaker for me. A final total cost of close to $50k (fees, license, taxes, options) is also a deal breaker. I just won't do it -- it's a matter of value.   They're just taking advantage pure and simple. Let them find some other sucker. As I see it, the car is worth, total price, around $40k, give or take $2-3k, max. Put another way, I'm willing to pay no more than $15k over what I paid for my GT Premium, loaded, or around a $45k total take-home price, loaded.   To keep some perspective, for $50k you can get TWO V6 Mustangs. For a little more than $50k you can get a C6.
#88 of 97 Quoted a Price on the Shelby by diverg Nov 25, 2005 (6:56 am)
I just got a call from my dealership that I've bought from before. Salesman told me that they are in fact getting ONE in next year and they want to pre-sell it before it hits the lot. They are not having an auction, instead they are setting the price at $75,000 with a $15,000 deposit first come first serve. I guess if they can get it why not but I have a feeling that I will watch this one for a while. I am glad I didn't go with my first impulse and agree because I truly believe if the 75K number is easily doable, they would auction (that's what they did with 2 GT's). So there it is. My car is waiting for me for 75K. I think I'm going to have to pass.
#89 of 97 First GT500 by xkss Dec 27, 2005 (8:43 pm)
The first new Shelby GT500 will be auctioned at the Barrett-Jackson car auction next month.   Barrett-Jackson
#90 of 97 Dealer Markup is Proportionate to the Hype by pony_pirate Jan 18, 2006 (12:54 pm)
Went in to a dealer to talk about ordering a SVT GT 500; sitting feet from us was a GT, with a $99,999 dealer markup clearly stated on the sticker, an auger of what will happen with the GT 500 SVT. Shame, though, considering that when the car was shown at the NY Auto Show last year, the price quoted was "under $40k."   Me, personally, if I were to spend $75k on a car, it would be on a Z06, not a souped-up Mustang. Replies to this message: rorr (Jan 18, 2006 2:31 pm)
#91 of 97 Re: Dealer Markup is Proportionate to the Hype [pony_pirate] by rorr Jan 18, 2006 (2:31 pm)
Replying to: pony_pirate (Jan 18, 2006 12:54 pm) "...sitting feet from us was a GT, with a $99,999 dealer markup clearly stated on the sticker,..."   There's a reason that GT was still sitting feet away from you......the $99,999 dealer markup.   GT's are now going for MSRP. I'm sure when they were first released (and demand exceeded supply) there were a few lottery winners that DID plunk down close to 1/4M for a GT. No longer.   Same holds true for the GT500. I'm sure when that thing first hits the ground, there will be a few individuals who spend $75k on it. Don't be amoung them.   But I would predict that within a year, prices will be back to MSRP.
#92 of 97 psh by sigt1 Feb 14, 2006 (8:49 am)
the market will bring the price to under MSRP after the enthus purchase the vehicle; so if you can wait, then wait   you can get GTs under MSRP now; it should be the same for the Cobra about a year after first year prodo
#93 of 97 Hooked by pony_pirate Apr 22, 2006 (9:38 pm)
First, this forum is mistitled. The title should be "2007 SVT Cobra."   Second, OK, I admit, I've been bitten by the Mustang bug. When the Cobra finally comes rolling out, I'll be there sniffing, looking, thinking of buying. I want that power. Replies to this message: dohc32v (May 12, 2006 9:57 pm)
#94 of 97 Re: Hooked [pony_pirate] by dohc32v May 12, 2006 (9:57 pm)
Replying to: pony_pirate (Apr 22, 2006 9:38 pm) Well as many of you already know the SVT Group of Ford, is no more. So the comment above is incorrect. Infact the Shelby GT-500 will have no reference to SVT or Cobra for that matter. Further, the Shelby GT-500 will be available and allocated to all Ford Dealerships, since the practice of only providing these cars to SVT Dealers is over and done with. There are no more SVT Dealers, since there is no more SVT Group within Ford. There will be a convertible, as well as a coupe. Production numbers being considered for 2007 10,000 units, with the split being 4,000 convertibles and 6,000 coupes. Ford has finally released the horsepower figure for the Shelby GT 500 and it will be 500 Ponies. First units will roll into Dealers showroom late June early July. If you have any sense about you, you will wait until the dust settles and be able to drive one out the door, before the end of the year, for MSRP. Unfortunately, gas mileage will be dismal, compared to a C-6 Corvette. With a large appitite for the high priced spread, some folks are going to be put off by this fact, so it may help rein in the asking price and Dealer mark-ups earlier than expected. Yes, I have my name on the list, with a couple of Dealers, but I don't plan on being scalped for one of these units.

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