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Hybrid Vehicles The Future of Hybrid Technology
1335 messages, Last post on Oct 07, 2009 at 4:45 AM
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What does the future hold? What breakthroughs are just around the corner? The current hybrids are just the starting point. Let's hear your thoughts on what automotive power is going to look like in the years to come!
| While the idea to save fuel & the environment is noble, the current approach methods are too complicated, expensive, impractical... I'm of the "KISS" philosophy myself & the current efforts in this regard don't make it... It would seem the only viable alternative at the moment is hydogen power, but we still have to find a way to make this gas cheap to produce... Given the way things are developing in the Middle East, it would seem prudent to find a way to do this soon... | |
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but that is by no means certain and it is not likely to be soon. Hydrogen requires more energy to produce from non combustible sources than is released in hydrogen combustion therefore it is less an alternative to petroleum than an alternative way to use it, unless, of course, we intend to resume deployment of nuclear power plants. Decades ago many thought that we would "find a way" to economically increase battery energy density to a point that electric vehicles would become a replacement for petroleum powered vehicles. In 1972, the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) published an article predicting a breakthrough in battery technology by 1980; that EVs would be commonplace by 1985 and that perhaps ALL vehicles would be electric by 2000. Of course that was a "pipe dream" and battery improvements in those 32 years have been incremental, not revolutionary. The pursuit of the EV can now be viewed as the alchemy of the 20th century. Will the "hydrogen economy" fare better? perhaps, or perhaps not. In any case we should not count on it without a plan for achievement. Wishing for a miracle is not a good project plan. |
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Replying to: nola (May 07, 2004 7:12 am) Dennis |
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Replying to: daysailer (May 10, 2004 3:48 am) EV could soon be a reality with current battery technology. The breakthrough has to come from electric motor. The breakthrough that I am talking about is the Minato Over Unity motor. You can read and view videos about Minato motor here. http://www.japan.com/technology/index.php Dennis |
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| and no advancement in motor technology will make a substantial difference in EV success since electric drives are and have long been better than 90% efficient. The most exotic (and costly) batteries have energy and power densities that are orders of magnitude less than gasoline. Differences in conversion and drive efficiencies cannot overcome that. | |
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Replying to: daysailer (May 10, 2004 9:04 am) More info at: http://www.japaninc.net/article.php?articleID=1302&page=1 Dennis
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"prepetual motion" That's what I said, when I heard about it the first time. =D Read the article and watch those videos and come back and give me a response. BTW, he has two US patents. 5594289 and 4751486. "I'm sure this will be as impressive as your illumination of how horsepower is not power." When did I say horsepower is not power? Stop putting words into my mouth. You are the one who said, a transmission does not multiply horsepower, it only change torque. LOL Dennis |
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| a potentially serious discussion that degenerates to one not worthy of response in less than 10 posts. Is that a record? | |
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