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JUST READING A FORBES ARTICLE by boomer1b
Jan 03, 2005 (7:35 pm)
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That Honda has a 739 day supply of Insights on the ground waiting to be sold...........
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Re: JUST READING A FORBES ARTICLE [boomer1b] by backy
Jan 03, 2005 (7:45 pm)
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Replying to: boomer1b (Jan 03, 2005 7:35 pm)

Did they mention what the daily sales rate is?
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Re: JUST READING A FORBES ARTICLE [backy] by xcel
Jan 03, 2005 (7:59 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 03, 2005 7:45 pm)

Hi Backy:
 
___Actually only (5) - 04 CVT’s sold in November of last year. I know a few guys searching for brand new 5-speeds and they are nowhere to be found. Expect the 05 ordering cutoff to occur in about another month or two and then the Insight’s run is over. A friend of mine in Washington State has had an 05 5-speed on order for over 3 months now and it is supposedly being built tomorrow or the next day. He is hoping for a delivery date of late February/early March.
 
___You might find the following link on Honda/Acura sales by model, Monthly comparison, and total YTD interesting …
 
http://hondanews.com/CatID1001?mid=2004120151841&mime=asc
 
___Good Luck
 
___Wayne R. Gerdes
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Re: JUST READING A FORBES ARTICLE [xcel] by gagrice
Jan 03, 2005 (9:46 pm)
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Replying to: xcel (Jan 03, 2005 7:59 pm)

Actually only (5) - 04 CVT’s sold in November of last year.
 
I think Honda is losing touch with what the public wants in a car. The Insight is designed for ultimate mileage and gets it with a manual transmission. Sounds like they are trying to unload those CVTs. They are not doing too good with the Accord either. People realize for a few bucks more you get the Acura name and a little more plushness. I see the cheapo Acura RSX is losing ground also. People are wanting room and comfort and are going for the Odyssey and Pilot. The gas scare is over. Bigger safer vehicles are back on the upswing.
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Re: JUST READING A FORBES ARTICLE [gagrice] by backy
Jan 04, 2005 (7:47 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 03, 2005 9:46 pm)

Yes, the Insight was not a market success, but it did fill a need for some people better than any other car. It will be interesting to see what happens with this trend towards large vehicles once the current dip in gas prices is over and prices soar to an all-time high in February, which is the current prediction (I saw this in a USA Today story in December).
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Insight stays, no redesign, no Honda SUV yet by larsb
Jan 04, 2005 (9:10 am)
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"Honda to stay with slow-selling Insight, says hybrid SUV not in 3-year plan
YUZO YAMAGUCHI | Automotive News
Posted Date: 1/4/05
TOKYO -- Honda Motor Co. has no plans to remodel the poor-selling Insight hybrid.
But it has no plans to kill the two-seater, either, says President Takeo Fukui, because it is the most fuel-efficient car sold in the United States. "That's an image car with the top fuel economy," he says.
 
The Insight's U.S. November sales numbered only 5, down from 39 a year earlier. For the 11 months of last year, Honda sold only 575 Insights, a plunge from 1,124 in the year-ago period.
 
The car was launched in 1999 to demonstrate Honda's fuel-saving technology. It is powered by an electric motor and a three-cylinder gasoline-powered engine. With a five-speed manual transmission, the Insight achieves 61 mpg in the city and 66 mpg on the highway. That tops the Toyota Prius' 60 mpg in the city and 51 on the highway.
 
The Prius, which was launched in 2000, has been embraced by environmentally conscious Americans. In the first 11 months of this year, Toyota sold 47,704 Prius units in the United States, more than double the number sold in the same period of the previous year.
 
Hybrid SUV not in 3-year planUnlike Toyota Motor Corp., Honda Motor Co. has no plans to build hybrid SUVs in the next three years.
 
"For now, we are not thinking about it" for the three-year plan starting in April, says Honda President Takeo Fukui.
 
SUV owners care little about fuel economy, Fukui says. "If they look for fuel efficiency," he says, "they could shift to a car."
 
Fuel-efficient hybrids use gasoline- or diesel-powered engines teamed with an electric motor. Honda sells the Insight, the company's first hybrid, and hybrid versions of the Accord and Civic.
 
View entire article here:
 
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101529
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Re: effect of SULEV,ULEV,LEV, etc.? [gagrice] by electrictroy
Jan 06, 2005 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 27, 2004 3:52 pm)

MPG = CO2/warming emissions. They are directly related.
 
SMOG exhaust emission is controlled by the SULEV/ULEV rating. Although SULEV is lower at the exhaust, you also must consider emissions from the gasoline delivery truck, oil refineries, the supertankers, and the desert drilling wells. The less gasoline you burn, the lower the pollution along the *entire chain* from desert oil well to refinery.
 
And that's why I chose the ULEV 5-speed Insight - because I'm getting 90 miles per gallon - and thereby reducing pollution along the whole chain from well-to-wheel.
 
http://www.greenercars.org can offer you some more advice.
 
troy
 
P.S. If you buy a Civic Hybrid, try to get the PZEV version from California. It's warranteed to be SULEV for 150,000 miles...a great benefit for the consumer.
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Re: effect of SULEV,ULEV,LEV, etc.? by rfruth
Jan 10, 2005 (2:22 pm)
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Replying to: electrictroy (Jan 06, 2005 10:10 am)

The Insight was one of the best investments Honda has made and this article tends to support
that - snip - American automakers are accelerating their efforts in hybrid technology, with one notable success, but the Japanese lead over Detroit was in clear evidence as the North American International Auto Show got underway on Sunday.
 
http://motoring.iafrica.com/motorshows/402673.htm

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