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It looks like the government is taken a look at the hybrid GM full size PU. They are claiming 5%-13% improvement over the gas burners. 17 city 19 highway with a 4wd is not my idea of an improvement. The big question is will it pull a 10,000 trailer up a 6% grade? I am sure there will be people that jump on this new truck. Hopefully we get some of the answers to the many questions. Without at least a 50% increase in mpg at the same price for the vehicle, why take the risk? http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/hybrid_news.shtml
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 18, 2004 8:37 am) Not an issue because the same engine is used regardless of hybrid or other. It's a very light hybrid system that mainly is only in use at very low speeds and for idling. I doubt you'll see any mpg change on the highway in real life (long trips). The EPA highway cycle is NOT just driving on the highway at 65mph, it's a warm start-up, lower speed driving, then some higher speeds. That's why many cars will beat the EPA on long highway only trips. My Tahoe regularly hits 20mpg on long highway legs. There's also no Chevy with the 5.3L V8 (used in the hybrid) rated to tow 10,000# anyway, lol! Somewhere around 7500#, which is a lot of work for the 5.3L anyway. I keep my Tahoe around 5,000# and it does the job. Very aggravating though when I'm used to pulling 15,000# easier with a diesel.
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Replying to: sebring95 (Jun 18, 2004 9:13 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 18, 2004 9:51 am)
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Replying to: sebring95 (Jun 18, 2004 12:06 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 18, 2004 12:14 pm)
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Replying to: sebring95 (Jun 21, 2004 4:38 am) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 18, 2004 12:14 pm) Curious? Why never a Dodge? Is a Dodge unreliable?
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Replying to: midnightcowboy (Jun 21, 2004 7:24 am) Not at all. They refuse to give into big corporations on fleet sales. As Sebring95 pointed out Ford usually gives the biggest discount. It all has to do with dollars. I am sure to Exxon or BP a 3/4 ton truck is just that, no matter who makes it. They go for the bottom dollar. If Chevy or Dodge would buckle under they would get the sales.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 21, 2004 8:14 am) Exactly. We were buying between 700-900 cars, 300 vans, 300 pickups, 85 medium-duty chassis per year, and if you can save $50 per unit you'll do it as long as the operational costs are similar. The operational and resale was always better on the toyotas/hondas, but the upfront cost was many thousands higher which would never materialize in overall savings. Same thing though on the 1/2 tons, fuel burn can be an issue and if one model gets significantly better mpg, it can correlate to cheaper operating costs and give you an advantage. At the time I was involved, chevy trucks weren't any more efficient than the Fords. However, I would think now with the V8's, GM probably already has an upperhand in efficiency. Another 10% with the hybrid system could be significant. My Tahoe was rated 1-2mpg higher than the Expedition was when we were shopping. Add another 1.5mpg and you've got a couple thousand dollars savings over a 100k miles service life. Significant when you've got 2000 trucks!
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