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Replying to: goodcrd (Nov 22, 2006 4:13 pm) Where in the world did you get any of this from the post about a Toy-uzu diesel hybrid. Other than the reference to GM/Izuzu link it said nothing about anything being better than anything else. In fact.. I think the GM dual-mode is probably the best system for improving fuel efficiency in heavy vehicles. However the blog entry indicated that this Toy-uzu diesel hybrid would likely be implemented in smaller vehicles like the Yaris/Corolla. Probably in competition to Honda's new small hybrid to be built in the Midwest. But it's new and it's an interesting development for small vehicles. All that other stuff about Caddy's and $30K vehicle and GM holds 23% of Toyota??????????? Are you into the eggnog early? Just show me the specific reference and I'll give your rant a little credence.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Nov 22, 2006 5:45 pm)
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GM sold off some of it's Toyota holding in late 2005. This has to do with some transfers in Fuji Heavy Industries and other companies. They still have some joint ventures and information sharing agreements. Toyota and GM have been working closely for years. Izusu has been with GM for years. Especially when Detriot Diesel was sold off about ten or more years ago. But I still don't rant!!!
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Replying to: goodcrd (Nov 22, 2006 4:13 pm) Well Americans tend to vote with their wallets. The domestics declining sales and the Japanese increasing sales would seem to contradict that statement. Have we been duped? I'm not bashing US automakers. I believe that they are just as capable of producing exceptional vehicles. Unfortunately they are saddled with financial constraints that interfere with the pursuit of quality. |
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Replying to: goodcrd (Nov 22, 2006 6:07 pm) I know you said it's real just provide a specific source for your information. Then I'll belive you. What you might have heard is that GM holds 20+% of their joint venture in Fremont CA ( possibly ) while Toyota holds 75+% of that plant. But that's the only joint venture. |
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Replying to: goodcrd (Nov 22, 2006 7:00 pm) 
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Replying to: terry92270 (Nov 24, 2006 2:34 pm) |
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Replying to: goodcrd (Nov 24, 2006 3:11 pm)  Well, time will tell, won't it? GM's only profitable division is its financial services companies, like GMAC/DITECH. Same with Ford. They will go under with their pension obligations unless they get help. That much isn't in dispute. Perhaps they can turn it around......perhaps.
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Replying to: terry92270 (Nov 24, 2006 3:26 pm)
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Replying to: goodcrd (Nov 24, 2006 3:11 pm) Cite specific references, please. Otherwise I do accept your opinion although it may not be factual. I used to sell steel to NUMMI, the JV in Fremont, when it first began so I know a little about the history there. Now if you go back into the 50-60's then yes often people dropped a Chevy engine into an FJ, but that was an aftermarket mod. If you have specific references I'd love to see them. TIA.
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