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could be old news to most edmunds users: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=115626#3
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Replying to: marcb (Jun 08, 2006 5:42 am) No, the unvieling of the Peugot diesel hybrid in the UK wasn't old news to me. Being originally from there I would have certainly remembered if I had seen a photo, taken purportedly from there, of a vehicle operating on the wrong side of the road. It is also not a good idea, while in England, to get into the obviously French custom of parking on pedestrian crossings either. Just because pedestrians don't happen to be using them at the time will not be considered a good excuse ! The Peugot seems to be the first copy of Honda's IMA but with an automatic transmission this time. However I have a feeling that by 2009 the IMA is going to be history. Thanks for posting the link T2
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Replying to: toyolla2 (Jun 08, 2006 9:39 am) On IMA. Why would you think it would go away? The Hybrid Civic is the only hybrid that gets decent mileage at a decent price. |
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Replying to: lensman (Jun 01, 2006 8:01 am) The real beauty of a hybrid is the fact that it can recover the energy typically lost in braking. A diesel hybrid, while attractive from many perspectives is far too expensive to market with the emissions requirements what they are today, the aftertreatment and the hybrid system costs are too much for the average consumer to recoup over the life of the vehicle.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 09, 2006 7:39 am) "On IMA. Why would (I) think it would go away? " Mechanical CVT's were discarded by industry in the early seventies due to reliability issues. Possibly lack of maintenance. Anyway, downtime expenses incurred while they were being repaired after a failure prompted industry to search out a more robust method. SCR follower drives were found to be a viable replacement. I know this because I joined the electronic drive business around this time and was occasionally sent out to commission this type of application. Regarding the HCH, it appears that dealership mechanics are being encouraged to replace the whole gearbox rather than the cheaper but riskier (to the service dept) replacement of a specific part which would then demand more critical set up skills. All the reading I have done never mentions a specific part to be identified as the culprit, it's always replacement of the whole subsystem when replacing transmission fluid was found to be ineffective. Perhaps someone could straighten me out on this. The more predictable Prius system with its low wear planetary torque splitter seems to be the way to go. I don't think that anyone will try argue with me that mechanical CTV MTBF's are superior to the MTBF's of the equivalent Prius electronic power modules. That being said, I am surprised the Peugot diesel didn't attempt a THS approach. T2 |
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Replying to: gearhead_greg (Jun 16, 2006 1:50 pm) No , that fact is not beautiful at all, gearhead_greg, and since I am denied the pleasure of your private e-mail I suggest that you move the first paragraph of your post over to the Advanced Hybrid board where I can deliver to your academic ivy walled idea of a serial hybrid the skewering it deserves - but in a nice way ! T2 |
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Anybody going to hybridfest? http://www.hybridfest.com/ Sounds like a big event and I heard they have a hybrid diesel for you to mull over. Lots of things to do and see, people are attending from all around the country and Canada. Hope to see you there! |
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http://carsguide.news.com.au/story/0,20384,19844037-21822,00.html Termed a "mild hybrid" by Mercedes because the motor is designed to help the diesel, the E320 is the company's first foray into production hybrids. It is also claimed to be the world's cleanest diesel and has a respectable average fuel consumption of 6.7 litres/100km. The low emission of the Bluetec is partly attributed to its refined diesel engine with three filters -- catalytic, particulate and a nitrogen oxide-reducing system known as DeNOx. The filters are highly sensitive to the amount of sulphur in the diesel fuel, so Bluetec is suitable for the US market with its 5ppm of sulphur... The E320 Bluetec will be joined later by a GL-based four-wheel-drive version and one based on an S-Class. Mercedes director of diesel engines Joachim Schommers says the $12 billion annual investment by his company on research and development is necessary to maintain mobility in the future.
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 21, 2006 7:58 am) |
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Until low-sulfer diesel fuel was avail. in the US (this month), there would have been no emission advantage to a hybrid, which was the reason hybrids were developed in the first place (to meet tougher emission regs). Extra MPG is a nice bonus. So, why don't GM & Ford have low-sulfer diesel hybrids ready to sell? Because they have missed the boat. They could have been Zillionaires... 
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