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Diesel, Hybrid Cars
#1 of 395 Hybrid Diesels?
May 06, 2004 (9:51 am)
Are they in our future? How will they perform? What will the emission factors be?
#2 of 395 To answer Sebring95's question ....................
May 06, 2004 (10:00 am)
in another thread, a discussion of economy, fuel or otherwise, in a $58K vehicle is pointless, if not ludicrous.
May 06, 2004 (10:48 am)
Oh, so it is not important for an expensive vehicle to get high MPG?
#4 of 395 Re: To answer Sebring95's question .................... [daysailer #2]
May 06, 2004 (10:59 am)
how's it ludicrous? It's not like there's other $58k SUV's that are performing better and getting anywhere near the fuel economy.
You said At present, diesels in the USA are merely another example of vehicles which offer improved fuel economy at the expense of performance
The new mercedes CDI is also another example. Better performance and much better fuel economy than the gas counterpart.
I think the current breed of Hybrids sacrifice more performance for the sake of fuel economy than the current diesels. So far the Prius is slower and more expensive than a TDI. Mileage depends on who you're talking to. We'll see what happens with the next round of V6 Hybrids, but I suspect a diesel hybrid would give similar/better performance and better mpg.
#5 of 395 There is!
May 06, 2004 (11:13 am)
The mercedes grand sport is a hybrid diesel, and very attractive--v8, 6-seater, 0-60 in sub 7, and good fuel economy.
Saying that fuel economy is "pointless" in a 58K vechicle assumes that only cost is a factor, which is VERY not true. I care a lot about fuel economy for many reasons, environment, dependence, politics, and a future when the oil runs out. I am of the opinion that people are not going to give up size and power until the oil coming out of the ground slows to a trickle, so we need to find ways to provide that while preserving our resources as best we can.
#6 of 395 Re: There is! [dhanley #5]
May 06, 2004 (3:14 pm)
Hey there is Toyota Volta with 400h V6 HSDdrivetrain, 3 seater, 0-60 in less than 4 sec and 40+mpg. Can Diesel beat that? A hybrid diesel will be interesting because there are more energy in the fuel.
#7 of 395 Is it a hybrid diesel?
May 06, 2004 (4:46 pm)
Otherwise, why are you posting it here?
#8 of 395 Re: Is it a hybrid diesel? [dhanley #7]
May 06, 2004 (5:59 pm)
"why are you posting it here?"
Well, how about to see where hybrid diesel stand against hybrid gas? You sound like a sore person from looking at your other posts. I don't want to ruin this thread because there are so much to discuss regarding how much benefit diesel can get if combined with electric vs. gas electric. If it is not welcome here then, have a great discussion in this thread.
May 06, 2004 (6:05 pm)
There's other hybrid vs diesel threads, so, thanks.