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Re: Another cutaway from the front [usbseawolf2000 #6] by djasonw
May 08, 2004 (3:21 pm)

Replying to: usbseawolf2000 (May 07, 2004 9:34 pm)

Thanks... you seem to bring a weath of information to the table. How refreshing!
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Hyundai jumps into the hybrid fray by backy
May 09, 2004 (11:53 am)
Hyundai says it will offer a hybrid-power option in one of its U.S. car lines for 2006. No decision yet on which model, but we'd guess it will be either the new Elantra or perhaps the smaller Accent being redesigned for '05.
 
This was on a web site that I expect Edmunds.com would think is a competitor; it sounds a lot like "Consumer Reports" but isn't.
 
My bet is on the Elantra, since I saw pics on a Hyundai web site some time ago of a prototype gas/electric hybrid using the previous-generation Elantra as a base. But a hybrid Accent would be great too, because it could mean a sub-$15,000 hybrid and the new Accent looks pretty nice.
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Mileage estimates need revamping? by pf_flyer HOST
May 12, 2004 (12:26 pm)
Here's a link to a story out of Cincinati about a guy less than pleased with the real world mileage performance. Maybe he should have waited before getting the MO MILES vanity plates...
 
http://www.wired.com/news/autotech/0,2554,63413,00.html?tw=wn_top- - head_1
There's even an Edmunds quote in the story...
 
Drivers rarely see the actual EPA-rated mileage in the real world, according to John DiPietro, road-test editor of automotive website Edmunds.com. DiPietro says most drivers will get between 75 to 87 percent of the rated mileage, with individual variations based on driving habits and traffic route. "If a new car gets less than 75 percent of its EPA rating, then it should be retested."
 
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GM hybrid by rfruth
May 21, 2004 (3:19 pm)
Even GM is talking about hybrids - snip - General Motors Corp. will showcase hybrid and fuel cell vehicles at a grassroots competition that begins today in Burlington, New Jersey and ends here Tuesday http://tinyurl.com/yrumj
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Re: Mileage estimates need revamping? by quasar4
May 23, 2004 (8:10 pm)
Nope. Just miserable driving habits.
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New batteries and Major overhaul as hybrid nears 100k miles? by julie_bug
May 24, 2004 (5:19 am)
I was talking to a friend of mine and he mentioned that he heard that as some of the first hybrids near 100k miles, major overhauls are needed. He said that it's starting to show that hybrids that get 'up there' in miles aren't able to handle it and a ton of work needs to be done to keep it up to par. Has anyone heard of this?
 
I've also heard that every couple of years a new battery needs to be purchased, and i've heard that they cost $2000-$3000! Is this true?
 
TIA
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by xcel
May 24, 2004 (6:18 am)
Hi Quasar4:
 
___In regards to miserable fuel economy driving habits, you are absolutely, 100% correct! A simple drop to 55 mph (you remember, the speed limit in most areas the last time I looked ) would save this country 10 - 20% of its oil appetite overnight. Another 5 - 10 % could be saved with mandating higher pressures in ones tires. Will America do it? Not a chance unfortunately
 
___Julie_Bug, you are somewhat misinformed. There are a number of Insighter’s and Prius I owners now breaching 100K without a problem. At some point the pack will show its age but 100K is a bit short for that scenario imho. The ICE and mechanical drivetrain is just as repairable as any other so that should not be an issue … There are some rather pricey items under the hood (actually underneath or behind the rear most passenger area for the most part) and if they go later on in a Hybrid’s life, the best thing would be to scrap it as it would be far more expensive to repair then to simply walk away from it.
 
___May I also ask where you heard of these problems because the various Hybrid boards I read outside of Edmunds aren’t bringing up anything similar in the least.
 
___Good Luck
 
___Wayne R. Gerdes
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Re: New batteries and Major overhaul as hybrid nears 100k miles? [julie_bug #12] by backy
May 24, 2004 (7:13 am)

Replying to: julie_bug (May 24, 2004 5:19 am)

No, the batteries don't need replacing every 2-3 years. They are designed to last far longer than that. I have read somewhere that there is no case yet of a battery pack on a Prius wearing out, and they have been in production since '97. For the Prius in particular, the battery pack has an 8 year/100,000 mile warranty, and 10 years/150,000 miles in the states that follow the CA emissions regulations. The current replacement cost for a full battery pack is in that $2000-3000 range you mentioned, but costs are declining and will continue to go down as hybrid sales increase.
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Toyota Prius HSD Dominates 2004 International Engine of the Year Award by usbseawolf2000
May 26, 2004 (12:20 pm)
"By taking four awards, Prius Hybrid Synergy Drive has won more trophies in one year than any other engine in the Awards' history."
 
Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive Takes Top Honors in Four Categories:
- International Engine of the Year 2004
- Best New Engine
- Best Fuel Economy
- Best Engine 1.4-liter to 1.8-liter

 
Hybrid Synergy Drive captured the grand prize with the highest score ever recorded in the history of the competition.
 
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040526/sfw068_1.html
 
Since it is International Engine of the year 2004, HSD tops the best diesel engines as well. Best fuel economy because HSD is the most efficient, period. Superior!! Sorry for the over excitement, it feels good when automotive professionals agrees with me. =D
 
Dennis

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