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Re: Toyota getting "alt fuel" serious. [larsb] by gagrice
Oct 10, 2006 (7:39 am)

Replying to: larsb (Oct 10, 2006 7:20 am)

I did notice in your article that Toyota mentions their having "clean diesel" at least 3 times. Something many here have said does not exist.
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Re: Toyota getting "alt fuel" serious. [gagrice] by larsb
Oct 10, 2006 (7:47 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Oct 10, 2006 7:39 am)

Well, "clean diesel fuel" meaning Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel does EXIST, it's just not yet prevalent and available everywhere.
 
And "clean diesel cars" DO apparently exist, at least outside the USA. Even the "world's cleanest diesel car" was not clean enough for the CAFE states.
 
It's good to know that Toyota is working the "clean car" future from several different angles.
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Re: Toyota getting "alt fuel" serious. [gagrice] by gagrice
Oct 10, 2006 (7:55 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Oct 10, 2006 7:39 am)

Even the "world's cleanest diesel car" was not clean enough for the CAFE states.
 
There you go again. You know that is totally false. The reason that CARB is balking is they do not trust you and I to maintain the emissions system. Same as Toyota does not trust YOU with an EV switch in your hybrid.
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Enough by pf_flyer HOST
Oct 10, 2006 (8:06 am)
Here we are again, with the same folks having the same argument, and starting to turn things personal again.
 
This is NOT the place to hold your personal disputes.
 
Last time I checked, nobody is changing anyone's mind here. Agree to disagree and move on.
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Very coool story inside Toyota's hybrid factory by larsb
Oct 10, 2006 (10:21 am)
Inside Hybrid factory
 
Nearly finished Priuses, Camrys and Premios (a Japan-only car) progress on automated floor belts through the final inspection area, where workers look for paint scratches and check the lights. Elevators, conveyors and other machinery seem to be shuttling metal everywhere, but nothing moves faster than your grandmother's walking speed.
 
Then there is the andon cord, a draping white cord that hangs overhead on both sides of every production line. When a worker sees a problem, he pulls the cord, which immediately stops his particular production line. In a U.S. factory, stopping production would be discouraged and would likely be accompanied by a loud, shrill alarm.
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Re: Toyota getting "alt fuel" serious. [larsb] by terry92270
Oct 10, 2006 (11:08 am)

Replying to: larsb (Oct 10, 2006 7:47 am)

Clean Diesel is the same thing as "clean" Coal.
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Today is a Big Day for Toyota and the TCH as an AMERICAN car by larsb
Oct 12, 2006 (7:13 am)
First Kentucky TCH rolls off today:
 
Kentucky-Built TCHs on the way to dealers today
 
Toyota's largest North American plant is set to roll out its first Kentucky-built hybrid Camry on Thursday.
 
Hybrid production required a $10 million investment for equipment modifications and training.
 
Kentucky legislators passed tax legislation last year, allowing carmakers to recover some costs of building hybrids.
 
Toyota officials cited the move in announcing their decision to build the hybrids in Georgetown.
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Camry story - but the best part is the Upcoming Hybrids sidebar by larsb
Oct 12, 2006 (7:34 am)
Very Good Sidebar on right side listing upcoming Hybrids
 
The present and future of hybrids
      TOYOTA
 
      Hybrid vehicles: Prius, Camry, Highlander, Lexus RX400h, Lexus GS450h.
 
      What's ahead: The Lexus LS 600h L coming in 2007; Toyota President Katsuaki Watanabe says his company hopes to achieve worldwide sales of 1 million hybrids a year by the early 2010s.
 
      HONDA
 
      Hybrid vehicles: Civic, Accord, Insight (being phased out).
 
      What's ahead: Plans to launch new hybrid-only model priced below the Civic hybrid by 2009, with annual sales targets of 200,000 vehicles worldwide and 100,000 in the United States.
 
      FORD
 
      Hybrid vehicles: Escape, Mariner.
 
      What's ahead: Mazda Tribute hybrid planned for 2007; Fusion and Milan hybrids expected in 2008.
 
      GENERAL MOTORS
 
      Hybrid vehicles: Saturn Vue Green Line, Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra (mild-hybrids).
 
      What's ahead: Saturn Aura and Chevy Malibu mild-hybrids coming in 2007; GMC Yukon and Chevy Tahoe full-fledged hybrids planned for late 2007; three additional models expected in 2008.
 
      NISSAN
 
      Hybrid vehicles: None currently available.
 
      What's ahead: Altima hybrid, using Toyota technology, will be available in eight states in early 2007.
 
      DAIMLERCHRYSLER
 
      Hybrid vehicles: None currently.
 
      What's ahead: Dodge Durango hybrid expected in early 2008; working with GM and BMW to jointly develop hybrid technology.
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Re: Camry story - but the best part is the Upcoming Hybrids sidebar [larsb] by backy
Oct 12, 2006 (9:07 am)

Replying to: larsb (Oct 12, 2006 7:34 am)

Good list but incomplete. For example it does not mention Hyundai/Kia's upcoming hybrids.
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Toyota plans to sell 290,000 hybrids in the USA in 2007 - WHEW !!! by larsb
Oct 13, 2006 (9:18 am)
Yesterday, Toyota announced that its Georgetown, Ky., plant has produced the first U.S.-built hybrid Camry sedan, and it plans to continue producing the vehicles at the rate of 48,000 per year. Simultaneously, the company projected that in 2007, it will sell a whopping 290,000 hybrids -- Priuses, Camrys, Highlanders, and so on -- in the U.S. alone.
 
Now I know what the naysayers will say ("nay"). I know they'll argue that 290,000 is barely 2% of all annual new-car sales in the U.S. But look at what else 2% is. Two percent of the U.S. auto market is:
 
    * The entire U.S. market share controlled by Hyundai.
    * More than all the Prius hybrids sold to date in the U.S.
    * Roughly twice the number of Toyota's 2005 U.S. hybrid sales.
    * Faster growth than the 79% compound three-year growth rate in total U.S. hybrid auto sales.

 
From this article:
 
Toyota "ambitions" for 2007 Hybrids

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