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Replying to: tpe (Sep 28, 2006 4:03 pm) I think it is possible. Will it be as fast as one with a big gas V8? No If my Mercedes Sprinter conversion van can get 25 MPG weighing 8k lbs. I think that 5 cylinder diesel with the 5 speed Tiptronic could get 30 in a Suburban size vehicle. It would cruise all day at 80 MPH with that engine transmission combo. They are building one in Europe with a plug-in hybrid for city delivery. FedEx and UPS are buying them by the thousands. Until we get great batteries diesel is the best solution for economy in all but the smallest vehicles.
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Replying to: gagrice (Sep 28, 2006 8:23 pm) |
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Citroen in designing the car, was simply trying to illustrate that a more environmentally friendly sports car can be made, said Lafaury, who was the project leader. "Currently, when you buy a sports car, you know it's an ecological problem," he said. He wasn't gushing in his view toward the market leader in hybrids, the Prius from Toyota "It's in production, so I have to respect that," Lafaury said. "But a diesel engine has lower emissions." Citroen hybrid Did I mention 0-60 in 6.2 seconds?
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Replying to: gagrice (Sep 29, 2006 7:23 am) Lower than WHAT? That's a very vague statement. Diesels emissions are: Not lower than PZEV gasser hybrids. Usually not lower than a SULEV gasser. What was his point?
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Replying to: larsb (Sep 29, 2006 8:39 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Sep 29, 2006 8:39 am) Not lower than PZEV gasser hybrids. Usually not lower than a SULEV gasser." Generally that is true, there are some emissions that are less, but that is splitting hairs maybe... Possibly they were speaking of most people's reality, a real life in a world that isn't filled with electric carts and SULEV automobiles. 
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Replying to: gagrice (Sep 29, 2006 9:57 am) Regardless, that's just his opinion I suppose, because so far the EPA has yet to rate even the cleanest diesel it has tested as high as the cleanest hybrid it has tested. That might, as you say, change at some point, but so far it has not changed. |
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Replying to: tpe (Sep 28, 2006 4:03 pm) Do you realize that your 1970's Pinto probaby had a 3 - 4 Liter engine? I had a 1973 Gremlin myself - 232 Cu In, which is 3.8 liters. I could spin the wheels at stop lights, and it got about 22 MPG in all situations. |
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Replying to: stevedebi (Sep 29, 2006 12:55 pm) Ah, no. From '71-'73 your engine choice was either a 1.6L or a 2.0L. From '74-'80 the base engine was the 2.3L Lima engine. The 2.8L Cologne V6 (making a HUGE 90hp  ) was optional from '75-'79. My best friend in HS had an early '70s Gremlin X; not sure what engine it had. He could spin the tires pretty easy from a stop but his car ran out of breath pretty quick (I used to be able to catch up to him on looooooooong straights in my '78 Corolla  )
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