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Replying to: terry92270 (Sep 26, 2006 2:21 pm) of the State’s light-duty vehicle purchases must be Alternative Fuel Vehicles (AFVs). A listing of all AFVs on the State’s vehicle master contract can be viewed at: http://www.pd.dgs.ca.gov/contracts/vehicles.htm " Did you even look at the list of AFVs? I did; the list for Alternative Fueled/Flex Fueled Vehicles and Trucks consists of: E85 compatible Chevy Impala, Chevy Tahoe, and Chevy Silverado. That's it. Now, ask gagrice how many E85 stations are in California?
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Replying to: rorr (Sep 27, 2006 5:29 am) What's in Your State? I see there are none in Phoenix where they need to clean up the air. http://www.e85refueling.com/ |
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Replying to: rorr (Sep 27, 2006 5:29 am) It would have shown you those vehicles are specialty items, used by the Department of Water Resources which maintains back-woods dam's and other distribution properties, as well as Fish & Game, lol. We all need to get out of the "gotcha" mind-set. The vast majority of them are normal, LEV's. Everyone, just try to be happy and positive about what steps they are taking. What they are doing is 100% more than the majority of States and Countries throughout the world. I do believe the Dept of General Services also has an E-85 station in Sacramento now, as well.
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Replying to: terry92270 (Sep 27, 2006 9:49 am) Wasn't your initial post mostly to the effect that the State of California was mandating that 75% of their light-duty vehicle purchases MUST be AFV's? I mean, that is the part you bolded and underlined. All I did was look at the link provided to see the list of the AFVs on the State's vehicle master contract. When I did so, the only vehicles I see are the Chevy E85 compatible vehicles I mentioned earlier. Here's the pertinent page: http://www.documents.dgs.ca.gov/pd/contracts/vehicles/altfuelspecs.htm Which I interpret to mean that 75% of the State's light-duty vehicle purchases must be Chevy E85 compatible Impalas, Tahoes, and Silverados. Am I missing something? "Everyone, just try to be happy and positive about what steps they are taking." Well, I'm sure they ARE doing something. But your post was regarding AFVs, which in reality are nothing but (from what I can tell) E85-compatible vehicles. And it's difficult to take seriously that this means they are 'doing something' when there are but a mere handful of E85 stations in California. Why not simply mandate that the California fleet mileage must be 'x' mpg? In essence, enact their OWN CAFE standards which, as purchaser, the State would have to meet?
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Replying to: rorr (Sep 27, 2006 10:52 am) I will have to search through the history from home for all the links, or you could just rummage around like I did. |
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Replying to: rorr (Sep 27, 2006 10:52 am)
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Replying to: tpe (Sep 27, 2006 1:37 pm) Sue the ones with the money. Afterall, as individuals, the consumer simply CAN'T be held accountable....we've all been brainwashed, remember? Even those California state legislators driving Expeditions, Suburbans, and Navigators aren't responsible for their own actions. I'm waiting for the State to sue all the oil companies next for making that heathen gasoline available at too cheap of a price..... |
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Replying to: tpe (Sep 27, 2006 1:37 pm) Suing automobile manufacturers seems a stunt, but who could have honestly predicted 30 years ago that cigarette manufacturers would successfully be sued for making a health hazard, since we all knew they were bad for us!
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Replying to: terry92270 (Sep 27, 2006 2:17 pm) |
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