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#4765 of 5290 Re: Agree CR is wrong but... [kdhspyder]
Mar 08, 2006 (4:52 pm)
What would you give in trade for a 2001 Prius with 75k miles in average condition?
Is the hybrid battery warranty of 8 years 100k miles (CARB AT-PZEV 15 yrs 150K mile) transferable?
I was told by a salesman, the only warranty that transfers to a new owner is the 3 yr 36k mile and any extended warranty that was purchased. I cannot find anything on the Toyota website concerning warranty transfer except for certified vehicles.
#4766 of 5290 Re: Agree CR is wrong but... [gagrice]
Mar 08, 2006 (5:31 pm)
Q1 'Rough' Black book is ~ $8000. Depending on condition maybe $1000 less but certainly no higher.
Q2 All Toyota warranties go with the vehicle. Now the CARB 'extension' above Toyota's standard 96/100000 hybrid component warranty, I cant speak for that without checking with Toyota corporate.
The salesman you spoke with was mistaken. I am 100% certain of that. Until the Prius I only purchased Used Toyota's.
#4767 of 5290 Re: Agree CR is wrong but... [kdhspyder]
Mar 08, 2006 (5:44 pm)
How does that match up to the projection by CR on resale value? You say a 5 year old hybrid loses 60-65% of it's original value. That seems like a big hit to me. I mostly have bought PU trucks which don't lose nearly that much.
I can see that. Someone could buy a Prius with a 140k miles and bring it into CA to get the extra coverage.
#4768 of 5290 Re: Agree CR is wrong but... [gagrice]
Mar 08, 2006 (6:03 pm)
In Vermont at least, the laws say that the extended emissions warranty pertains to "the ultimate purchaser and each subsequent purchaser".
#4769 of 5290 Re: Agree CR is wrong but... [backy]
Mar 08, 2006 (6:21 pm)
I looked for that on the CA website. Never found it. I think VT is similar to CA on emissions if memory serves me. To my way of thinking it should force the auto makers to replace anything that changes the emissions levels. Such as atalytic convertors, sensors etc.
#4770 of 5290 Re: Agree CR is wrong but... [gagrice]
Mar 08, 2006 (6:38 pm)
And in a hybrid... batteries and such.
#4771 of 5290 Consumer Reports' Error.
Mar 09, 2006 (11:28 am)
Value and Cost and Money are three separate items.
So you "save" X thousand dollars on buying a Corolla. You have little chance of being in an accident, so you have saved some serious money.
But, if you are hit by some idiot? Maybe the dollar savings are equal to the increased medical costs over an accident in a Prius. But, I will forgoe the PAIN. It is a cost too.
#4772 of 5290 Re: Consumer Reports' Error. [library1]
Mar 09, 2006 (12:37 pm)
But, if you are hit by some idiot? Maybe the dollar savings are equal to the increased medical costs over an accident in a Prius.
I'm not sure I follow you. The Corolla is rated safer than the Prius for both driver and passenger. According to the NHTSA. If you buy a new Civic it is even safer than the Corolla. So you can save money and your hide.
#4773 of 5290 Re: Consumer Reports' Error. [gagrice]
Mar 09, 2006 (2:51 pm)
ahh.. but as the iihs states, dont compare different weight classes. The NHTSA 'indications' are at best a 'go/no go' guidance. The tests as they admit are outdated and no where near as difficult as the rest of the world's testing.
According to the iihs every vehicle now is 'Good' in frontal impact protection ( in their more difficult test ) - except the new Fusion for some weird Ford reason and the old Stratus/Sebring.
#4774 of 5290 Re: Consumer Reports' Error. [gagrice]
Mar 09, 2006 (3:03 pm)
Look at http://www.iihs.org/brochures/ictl/ictl.html
for the IIHS PDF file titled "INJURY, COLLISION, & THEFT LOSSES by make and model, 2002-2004 models"
CARS Injury (100= average medical costs)
Toyota Corolla 167
Toyota Prius 4dr 67
Honda Civic Hybrid 4dr 89
Toyota Echo 193 (- my old car!)