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#3321 of 5290 Re: prius rental [katzjamr]
Oct 15, 2005 (5:04 pm)
I rented directly from the dealer as they have TRAC (Toyota Rent A Car). I originally tried a 2003 which was nice, but something I would never buy. The dealer had a Salsa Red which I rented for four days while at my country retreat near the Poconos (NE PA). Try and call some Toyota dealers to see if they have one for rental. If not, try Enterprise as I recall reading that they have them as well. It's a good way to find out if the car is for you. I loved it!
Oct 16, 2005 (5:24 am)
Toyota is to offer the largest range of used hybrid petrol/electric vehicles available in New Zealand.
They will be marketed as Signature Hybrid within the well-established Signature Class brand which sells guaranteed used vehicles.
#3323 of 5290 Re: prius rental [falconone]
Oct 16, 2005 (5:24 am)
I did the same. Try before you buy. Long term tests really help with a decision you may regret. No regrets here after 30k plus miles and coming up on two years of ownership for my 04 Prius.
Oct 17, 2005 (6:53 am)
Ford Motor Co. plans to speed up hybrid vehicle production
The No. 2 U.S. auto maker intends to offer hybrid systems on half its models, Ford Chairman William Clay Ford Jr.
If demand warrants, he said, Ford will build up to 250,000 gas-electric hybrids a year by 2010 _ a tenfold increase from its current production.
#3325 of 5290 Put the Calculators Away
Oct 17, 2005 (7:13 am)
It's a funny thing. The minute someone wants to discuss the Prius, out come the calculators. Everything else is considered "off topic" to the discussion moderators, and the totals are rendered as though nothing else in the world mattered to the buyer.
Then, when you mention SUV's, the calculators quickly get turned off, and the industry begins arguing in terms of theories like "the maximum use imperative" as though how much crap you can fit in your vehicle is the only thing that defines "use".
It's as though the industry itself is trying to decide for us the terms under which we ourselves would argue for our purchase decision.
If you want to know the truth, buying a Prius was an extraordinarily emotional decision for me and my wife. It was a big "screw you" directed toward some people whom we believe to be fundamentally and fatally wrong.
And while it makes me cringe horribly to suggest it, we Prius owners are probably more similar to Hummer drivers than anyone on the road, and secretly I even respect them more than the average driver when I consider, "now there's a guy who knows how to communicate his values and take a stand!"
#3326 of 5290 Re: Put the Calculators Away [danashields]
Oct 17, 2005 (7:36 am)
I wouldn't like to consider myself similar to a Hummer driver. I have nothing against someone who can afford to fill up a tank and not care less about getting 11 mpg. If they can afford that and that's what they need, that is their prerogative.
#3327 of 5290 INTERESTING POINT OF VIEW [danashields]
Oct 17, 2005 (9:18 am)
I too see your point of view. I do how ever find it hard to see anything but a vague comparison to Hybrid owners & Hummer owners. Maybe I just don't get it with the Hummer mentality. Hybrids (Prius especially) have risen above the experimental stages to arrive at real & viable transportation. Not only fuel efficiancy and phenominal eco friendly stats but a run of vehicles that are the watch word to the future needs of planet earth.
Isn't it interesting that the "BIG THREE" have swung advertising to emphasize their great "MPGS"?
Back to the comprison clash....I can't even imagine anyone feeling a rush of excitment when pumping 37 gallons of gas into any of the "Monsters" Smart people just can't stand being anything but frugle. Paying over $100.00 for a 4-5 day fillup would just give me ulcers. By the way, I laugh a bit at Harly riders that manage less than 30 mpgs on a motorcycle. Where's the advantage in that? Different strokes I suppose.
Railroadjames(why not hybrids?)
#3328 of 5290 Re: INTERESTING POINT OF VIEW [railroadjames]
Oct 17, 2005 (11:25 am)
well the comparison is to say simply that we're both trying to send a audacious message.
Thankfully, however, I'm the one who's right.
#3329 of 5290 Re: INTERESTING POINT OF VIEW [danashields]
Oct 17, 2005 (12:13 pm)
Maybe that is the more accurate comparison: You both think you're right
#3330 of 5290 Re: INTERESTING POINT OF VIEW [railroadjames]
Oct 17, 2005 (12:14 pm)
And here's the weird irony: it's going to take a combination of Hummer and Hybrid drivers who are going to force the industry to change. Because hybrid buyers are going to force demand on the technology, and Hummer drivers are going to force demand on gas. Price of one goes down. Price of the other goes up.
So, for example, if--in a perfect world--every red-stater purchased a Hummer, and every blue-stater bought a hybrid, in this extreme environment of polarization, the transition would be made effortlessly into alternate forms of energy.