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Re: Toyota's -0-% Financing [ocautoseeker]
by justbrowse
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Apr 11, 2008 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: ocautoseeker (Apr 11, 2008 12:50 am)
Your comments and observations are very well written and well received; after all, you are the consultant in this field. In our discussions, we have agreed on a lot points; however, as a consumer, I have issues with the sales and marketing practices of the auto industry. From my consumer retail perspective, selling and marketing of a high-end manurfactured product is no different than selling and marketing timeshares. Both industries are similar: high dollar item, available financing, creative marketing, and the same sales tactics and methodogy used in high pressured sales. Retail is retail. As an accounting professional, the accounting of income and expenses to the auto retailer is not different than any other retailer i.e. Costco, Target, Pep-Boys, and Walmart. The only stand out difference is the "sales practices and sales tactics used." Granted, they all have the same fixed and variable costs, and they all post "MSRP" on their products and have sales. However, in your auto industry, the creative marketing is to pass on these so called "fees" or expenses to the consumer on top of the agreed upon sales price at closing or signing. As a consumer, I can choose to pay or accept or negotiate with the dealer or walk. In my case, I am challenging and questioning these so called mandatory expenses. I agree, they are listed, but it doesn't mean I have to pay at closing or signing! The consumer question is: Why do I have to pay for your incurred marketing and floor interest expense? But, the answer is, That's the way we operate and do things around here for the past 50 years. As a consumer, I have a choice-pay it or don't pay it. In my case, I am challenging and questioning it. If I am spending $40,000 on A car or any high-end product or timeshare, I'm going to do my homework and due dilligence before I set foot on your showroom floor.
I applaud Edmunds and KBB in helping the consumer in his "due dilligence." One day, your auto retail industry will have to change to the "Ebay"/ "Amazon" way of marketing cars...click, click and pick up your car at a designated pick up point...get rid of the high pressured sales and marketing tactics. If Costco can sell high end manufactured products and be very successful at it; they can surely sell cars...one day...
With the economy slowing down and consumer sentiment at a 1982 low, and dealerships flushed with unsold inventory, more power to the Consumer!
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Re: Future Tundra Owner 2 [eric102]
by justbrowse
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Apr 11, 2008 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: eric102 (Sep 13, 2007 6:22 pm)
Be a patient buyer...the economy will get worse before it will get better. September / and near year end is a great time. The dealerships are flushed with unsold Tundras; there are still 07's sitting on the lots, along with the 08's, and the 09's are coming out in late September/Oct. You're not going to miss out on low interest or -0-% financing, there will always going to be deals! There are too much product out there to choose: Ford, GM, Dodge, Nissan....Toyota....the car industry is using creative marketing to get you into the doors: -0- this, low this and that, free this and free that....The bottom line is that going to hammered by the saleman at closing....Timesales 101.
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Re: Toyota's -0-% Financing [justbrowse]
by ocautoseeker
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Apr 12, 2008 (12:46 am)
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Replying to: justbrowse (Apr 11, 2008 9:03 am)
You still never answered the question(s), but that's okay, it really doesn't matter at this point. I was just interested to know what you thought was a "fair" (as you called it) price?
I still want to know how you're buying your truck directly through Toyota?
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Re: Toyota's -0-% Financing [ocautoseeker]
by justbrowse
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Apr 12, 2008 (8:26 am)
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Replying to: ocautoseeker (Apr 12, 2008 12:46 am)
A "fair price" is between a willing buyer and a willing seller. NOT, by the way I have to add on my variable and selling costs on top of our agreed upon price!
The Ebay pricing....... get into the world of internet pricing....not what has been done (sales practices and procedures) for the past 50 years.. Retail is Retail: it's not rocket science. Don't glamorize the retail auto industry; it's racks at the top along with Timeshare selling....
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Re: Toyota's -0-% Financing [justbrowse]
by ocautoseeker
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Apr 14, 2008 (8:14 pm)
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Replying to: justbrowse (Apr 12, 2008 8:26 am)
Well, please post what you pay when you do buy? Interested to know...
I still want to know how you're buying direct? Doesn't happen unless you're a distributor or far up the chain!?!?!
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2008 SR5 2WD Tundra 5.7 DC Std. Bed
by horns90
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Apr 20, 2008 (10:41 am)
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Was quoted 29,999 drive out. Just wondering if I could do better. Feedback please. Thanks!!!
Specs:
(BM) Ball Mount
(WT) Window Tint
(DS) Door Sill Enhancements
(AB) 20 Inch Carved Wheel Upgrade
(WR) Sliding Rear Window w/ Privacy Glass
(LF) Fog Lamps
(EJ) JBL Am/Fm Audio w/ 6 Disc Changer.
(RL) Daytime Running Lights
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Re: 2008 SR5 2WD Tundra 5.7 DC Std. Bed [horns90]
by ocautoseeker
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Apr 20, 2008 (5:48 pm)
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Replying to: horns90 (Apr 20, 2008 10:41 am)
Where do you live (zip)? What's your tax rate?
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Re: 2008 SR5 2WD Tundra 5.7 DC Std. Bed [ocautoseeker]
by horns90
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Apr 20, 2008 (7:10 pm)
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Replying to: ocautoseeker (Apr 20, 2008 5:48 pm)
zip is 77494. Rate is .0825
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Re: 2008 SR5 2WD Tundra 5.7 DC Std. Bed [horns90]
by ocautoseeker
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Apr 20, 2008 (10:13 pm)
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Replying to: horns90 (Apr 20, 2008 10:41 am)
Does this vehicle have an MSRP of $32,297??
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Re: 2008 SR5 2WD Tundra 5.7 DC Std. Bed [ocautoseeker]
by horns90
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Apr 21, 2008 (4:59 am)
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Replying to: ocautoseeker (Apr 20, 2008 10:13 pm)
MSRP = 33,266
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