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Honda Civic Hybrid Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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#390 of 622 Re: Honda Civic Hybrid: Prices Paid & Buying Experience [KarenS] by informative

Apr 19, 2007 (2:30 pm)

Replying to: Karen@Edmunds (Apr 29, 2004 5:02 pm)
I love Honda's. Own three of them 2002,2004 and 2006. I love the good service too. Took the 06 Civic EX 1.8 in for an oil change and they flagged it for a steering fluid leak and did the work in a couple of hours free of charge of course.
 
Things that concerned me is, I see others posting this as a common problem with the 06 Civic and yet nothing was mailed out asking us to come get it checked. What if we had changed our own oil or gone to jiffy lube?
 
The other thing that raised my eyebrows is when I was greeted by the service department employee I incorrectly said I think it might be a recall issue and he looked overcome with guilt and said "Oh is this a Hybrid" which sometimes a picture or a look on a knowledgeable techs face is worth more than a thousand words... I'll steer clear (pun intended) of the hybrid myself until I know it's solid.

#391 of 622 Hybrid tax rebate by aristotle

Apr 19, 2007 (4:02 pm)

I also some postings regarding the AMT and the hybrid tax rebates in the following thread:
 
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef32446

#392 of 622 Re: Federal Tax Credit Info on Hondas for Q1-2007 [pegasus17] by dcv_2002

Apr 21, 2007 (11:48 am)

Replying to: pegasus17 (Mar 19, 2007 2:26 pm)
SO does this basically mean that the tax credit is good until Q2-2007 (i.e. June 30th, 2007). So if they meet there quota as of March 31, 2007. This states that you can get full credit up to the end of the first calendar quarter after the quarter the quota is met. Is this right?

#393 of 622 Re: Federal Tax Credit Info on Hondas for Q1-2007 [dcv_2002] by aristotle

Apr 21, 2007 (4:27 pm)

Replying to: dcv_2002 (Apr 21, 2007 11:48 am)
Hi dcv_2002,
            For people filing jointly the AMT exemption is being reduced from $62,550 to $45,000 for the 2007 tax year. A lot more people will have to pay AMT in 2007. It is not a rich man's tax anymore. Just look at the following links:
 
http://www.irs.gov/formspubs/article/0,,id=109876,00.html#amt_2007
 
http://www.irs.gov/formspubs/article/0,,id=109876,00.html#amt_2006
 
In order to claim the full hybrid rebate your tax calculated using the conventional method minus your tax calculated using AMT should exceed $2100. Most people will get no rebate or if they do get the rebate, it will be a very small portion of the $2100.
 
So keep these things in mind before purchasing the hybrid.
The following link talks about the situation of people who bought hybrid cars in 2006:
 
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2007/01/26/EDG- C7N75RT1.DTL
 
For 2007 the situation will be worse since the AMT exemption is being reduced ( unless the congress intervenes ).

#394 of 622 Re: Federal Tax Credit Info on Hondas for Q1-2007 [aristotle] by stevedebi

Apr 24, 2007 (9:39 am)

Replying to: aristotle (Apr 21, 2007 4:27 pm)
Reading the page, they also eliminated the electric vehicle credit, which I suppose is different from the hybrid tax credit.

#395 of 622 My experience buying an 07 HCH...could have been better. by kshonda

Apr 24, 2007 (4:59 pm)

Here's my story of buying an 07 HCH. First, I loved the car for the few days we owned it. We bought a car on a Friday from a dealership in the Kansas City area. I won't state the name of the dealership as in the end they did us fair. I had briefly checked out the HCH before going to the dealership. I saw they were starting out around $22,600 or so MSRP, so when we negotiated a deal of $22,500 (not including 230 doc fee) I thought we were getting a pretty good deal, the salesman sure made me feel that way. He went on and on about how they can't come down much at all on these cars and blah blah blah. Sticker was 23,195. So that night that we bought it I was checking on this website and regretting that I didn't check around more, as I felt we could have gotten a better deal.
 
So when we looked at the car we were told by the salesman that the car had XM radio, however this was the no navi car, but we didn't know any different and was like oh great, XM. Then I called the dealership that Monday and asked why we couldn't get XM to work. He did some research and called us back and said that we don't have it, and he did admit that he was wrong and thought we did. But he "generously" offered to pay half of the $700 that it costs to put one in. After going back and forth, the best we got from them was to install it for free. My husband didn't like the idea of them pulling off the dashboard of our brand new car to install something we were told it had to begin with. He feared rattling or possible electonic problems down the road. They consistenly declined all of our offers for a HCH with navi (so we could have XM without ripping off dashboard) or a discount off of the car we have now. They declined all the offers and would only install the XM radio free of charge, that's it.
 
So in the last phone call (Tuesday after buying car on Friday) I asked if we could just return the car and he laughed and said no. Then I gave him three options...23,200 for car with navi, or refund of $700 making the price of the car 22,030 (including everything but sales tax...21,800+230). I mentioned those were his options and if he didn't take one we would keep the car the way it was and report them to BBB and wherever else we could. He paused and requested that we return the car with no cost to us, and stated we were trying to "screw" him and the whole thing was just not going well, so this was the best option. Our point was we wanted what we thought we were getting, a car with XM radio that hadn't had the dashboard ripped off to have it installed, and we were not going to pay the additional $1100 they offered us (and that's down from $1800 they previously offered) to have that feature. It's unfortunate they don't make a HCH with XM only and no navigation, or it all would have been simple.
 
Anyway, on the way to the dealership to return the car, I called around and got a bottom dollar of 21,600 including everything but sales tax. I had also gotten figures of 21,750 and 21,900...ALL better than the offer the other dude refused!! We are going tomorrow to look and likely buy one for 21,600. He promised out the door price of 21,600 as we don't pay sales tax at that dealership. So that's almost $400 less than what I offered the first dealership for the car we bought after all the stuff went on with the XM and misrepresention, and he would rather I return this car that we drove all weekend and put 300-400 miles on, then to take less for the car. And he definately would have still made $ on the car. All due to stubborness if you ask me, and I know we are stubborn too. I am glad he gave me that option of returning that car, even if we had to jump through all kinds of hoops to get there. But the whole experience was really an eye opener to me. Some dealers will gladly take what another wouldn't even think of in the same city!! Do your homework, fight for what you think is fair. And remember, HCH w.o navi do not have XM radio!!
 
I would love to hear other's buying experiences, well the ones that don't go so smoothly!

#396 of 622 Educate Yourself by watercop1

Apr 27, 2007 (7:12 am)

Too many salsemen are not educated about their product and feel the cars "sale themselves". This attitude is more prominent with Honda/Toyota dealerships. As a customer you should also be capable of reading the sticker or viewing Honda's website which clearly states XM is optional add-on except for nav units. Sounds like they gave you a fair price and tried to work with you. Shame on the salesman but shame on yourself for not researching a major purchase. Looking foward to trading my EX for a Hybrid.

#397 of 622 Re: Educate Yourself [watercop1] by kshonda

Apr 27, 2007 (8:01 am)

Replying to: watercop1 (Apr 27, 2007 7:12 am)
That is true that we should have known what we were buying. I can specifically remember me asking what the little antenna on top of the car was for and he replied that it was for the XM radio these cars come with and we would get it 3 months free and all that. I had no reason to doubt that, but hind sight is 20/20 and he is just a salesman. They did try to work with us and I respect them for that, it was a fair enough deal, but the whole experience just has us floored because we ended up buying the same car with pen stripes and splash guards for a total of 21,500, so that was $530 less than our bottom offer at the first dealership and they opted to have us return the car then to take less. And you have to consider too that they were going to pay to have the XM installed so after you take that into consideration, they were probably only losing around $300 from what we paid for it in the beginning. That is their right though and they must feel confidant they can make more $ off of it selling it to someone else, and they probably will, just not by someone who has shopped around. I just encourage others to research and as you said "educate themselves" no matter how convincing the saleman may sound.

#399 of 622 Price in So Cal by sunspa14

May 01, 2007 (1:24 pm)

Honda of Corona had in stock just what I wanted. White hybrid with Navi. $23,012 and $895 for the 80k warranty plus all the obligatory taxes and licenses. That includes destination. Carmen was the saleswoman - fairly new but very sweet and she got me the deal I asked for. Love the XM radio on the navigation screen - well worth the extra money for me (and I'm a cheapskate!) California buyers - no more carpool stickers available for this car.

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