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Re: . [centel] by kyfdx HOST
Feb 03, 2006 (4:13 am)
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Replying to: centel (Feb 02, 2006 9:15 pm)

I am definitely not an expert on the new tax credit.. That said, here is how I read it..
 
Once a manufacturer reaches the limit, all cars sold in that quarter of the year and the next quarter qualify for the credit..
 
In other words, it isn't a hard cap.. the cap just triggers the end date. So, the dealers should know at least 90 days before the expiration of the credit for their particular make.
 
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kyfdx
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Re: . [kyfdx] by centel
Feb 03, 2006 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Feb 03, 2006 4:13 am)

Since I won't file taxes for 2006 until next January, the tax credit could have reached its limit for a couple of quarters. I'm curious how the IRS will sort out who gets the credit and who doesn't.
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Re: . [centel] by gagrice
Feb 03, 2006 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: centel (Feb 03, 2006 8:19 am)

Those are good questions. The dealer should have some kind of form to fill out. But until the IRS rules they may not be available.
 
Another question. Does the 60k units mean, 60k sold or 60k sold to people that qualify. I imagine at least half the hybrids will be sold to companies and people that do not qualify for the credit. Many people will not know if they qualify until they do their taxes in 2007. Remember the AMT may get a lot of us this year.
 
I'm thinking Katrina and the war will drain our funds and you will get a big "So Sorry" we are out of money.
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Re: . [centel] by kyfdx HOST
Feb 03, 2006 (8:44 am)
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Replying to: centel (Feb 03, 2006 8:19 am)

It is like any other credit or deduction.. If you qualify for it, you claim it.. As stated above, you will know if you qualify at the time of purchase.
 
  If the IRS asks you to prove you qualify, then you'll have to back it up with paperwork..
 
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kyfdx
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Re: . [centel] what about the VIN number by pojaman
Feb 03, 2006 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: centel (Feb 02, 2006 9:15 pm)

My guess is the IRS will keep track of the unit sold by keeping tab on the Vehicle Identification Number(VIN)so you probably will have to file the numbers on your taxe form. What else could they do to count how many units are sold? There will be a place to file the reduction on the taxe form.
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Re: . [centel] what about the VIN number [pojaman] by kyfdx HOST
Feb 03, 2006 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: pojaman (Feb 03, 2006 8:55 am)

Again.. this might all be rampant speculation.. or "educated guessing" on my part... but, I think it will work this way..
 
Toyota reports to the IRS that they've sold 60K Priuses by June 15th.. By the rules, that means that every Prius sold by September 30th (the end of the next quarter) will qualify for the tax credit... Toyota tells their dealers that the credit is only for cars sold by 9/30, and the dealers inform their customers..
 
You take the credit if you qualify... If the IRS requires proof (whether on the form, or by letter or audit), then you provide the paperwork.
 
There are hundreds of different credits administered under the tax code... This one shouldn't be any more difficult than any other..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: . [centel] what about the VIN number [pojaman] [kyfdx] by gagrice
Feb 03, 2006 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Feb 03, 2006 9:00 am)

I think that is the way it will go also. My question, is that a hard figure on the 60K? We know they will not all qualify for the tax credit. I guess the Feds make out if only 30k or the 60k owners qualify.
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Re: . [centel] what about the VIN number [pojaman] [kyfdx] [gagrice] by pojaman
Feb 03, 2006 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Feb 03, 2006 9:15 am)

Why would they not qualify? If you owe money you get the $2100 break ,if you don't, you get the check in the mail.
First 60000 HCH owners get it, the next one do not. Am I wrong? Did I miss something?
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Re: . [centel] by jmurman42
Feb 03, 2006 (11:06 am)
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Replying to: centel (Feb 02, 2006 6:50 pm)

It is my understanding that the gov is only going to allow the first 60,000 units to qualify for the deduct. If tyhat is the case then I would try to have yours BEFORE end of summer.
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Since this board.... by jrct9454
Feb 03, 2006 (12:35 pm)
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...is supposed to be about the HONDA Civic Hybrid, it would be reasonable for me to point out at this point that it is highly unlikely that Honda will bump up against the tax credit ceiling in calendar year 2006. Only Toyota is going to sell enough hybrids under both the Toyota and Lexus brands to hit the ceiling in '06. If Honda hits the 60,000+ mark in 2006, as noted above, the "grace period" extends into the quarter FOLLOWING that event - just about impossible for Honda buyers to run out of credits in the coming year.
 
The 60,000 ceiling is for each manufacturer - no way you need to rush out an buy a Civic or Accord hybrid for fear that Honda will sell more than this in the first three quarters of this year.

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