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Lebaron
by sean3
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Dec 18, 2004 (4:59 pm)
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I ran my old '90 Lebaron for 210K and the interior was still great and heck it even ran well, it even had an airbag standard and all disc brakes standard good for a 1990 domestic. No interior rattles, fast as lightning power windows, quality wise back then chrysler was no worse than GM. chryler makes some sweet looking aggresive cars and suv'x
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- #266 of 488
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Re: My 300C order [jglackin]
by motcrue68
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Dec 20, 2004 (2:53 pm)
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Replying to: jglackin (Dec 15, 2004 5:10 pm)
I guess I was in great shape. The dealer just called me this afternoon and told me car is being delivered later today. I can pick it up tomorrow afternoon. Those idiots at DCX have no clue, they told me just last week car was still in D stage. I'll keep you posted after pick up tomorrow.
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- #267 of 488
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congrats!
by sean3
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Dec 20, 2004 (8:51 pm)
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those are some mean looking machines.Later Sean
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- #268 of 488
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Re: Chrysler 300: Prices Paid & Buying Experience [djones]
by happycc48
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Dec 22, 2004 (5:41 pm)
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Replying to: djones (Nov 02, 2004 7:11 pm)
I just read your message. You seem to have gotten a GREAT deal on your car. What city did you purchase? I'm in Houston and have not found anyone in my area on the message board.
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- #269 of 488
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Dealer Greed
by ballcoach
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Dec 23, 2004 (8:01 am)
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If a dealer is charging MSRP+, there is something wrong with the dealer. Here in the upper midwest (Mich.) NOBODY pays sticker price. DCX is offering preferred pricing to employees of Wal-Mart and Home Depot, for crying out loud. As has been stated in other forums, ask to look at the invoice for the vehicle. Towards the bottom is a "EP" price (employee price,) and there is a "PP" price (preferred price.) The dealer has room to negotiate between the "PP" and MSRP. Anything over MSRP is pure greed.
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- #270 of 488
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Re: Dealer Greed [ballcoach]
by jglackin
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Dec 23, 2004 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: ballcoach (Dec 23, 2004 8:01 am)
Here's what really happens. DCX has selected certain companies and other programs to be recipients of the PP price. PP price is really just the invoice price multiplied by .99 (or 1% under). A dealer that chooses (yes, it's optional) to participate in these programs takes the 'temporary loss' of that 1%, and DCX reimburses the 'loss' later. The rest of the story is just simple supply and demand economics. Try to draw some parallels to smaller ticket items...last year (when there was no threat of snow) the Mgr. of the local Home Depot gave me 25% of 3 bags of Ice Melt that were slashed across by a wayward box cutter. I'll bet if the weatherman forecasted 2 feet of snow, there would have been no deal. Do they put air conditioners on sale in Arizona in July? These are simply examples of...how much will the market bear. I personally have taken car deals where the dealership has LOST several hundred dollars (below holdback I mean). I'll do that on my leftover on the last day of the month when I am one car away from the goal. Problem is...right now...LOW supply...HIGH demand. If that equals greed to you, then wait until next year and see what happens. BTW, most of us don't honor those PP deals on cars like this.
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- #271 of 488
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Re: Chrysler 300: Prices Paid & Buying Experience [happycc48]
by hardhawk
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Dec 23, 2004 (11:59 am)
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Replying to: happycc48 (Dec 22, 2004 5:41 pm)
My dealer here sold my Magnum RT to me for $200 over invoice. I had no trade. Similar deals can be had on 300C. SE KS isn't that far from Houston.
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- #272 of 488
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Re: Dealer Greed [jglackin]
by ballcoach
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Dec 24, 2004 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: jglackin (Dec 23, 2004 11:18 am)
I understand where you are coming from with the supply and demand angle, but anytime an agent charges more than the manufacurers price, that is price gouging. When we have severe ice and snow storms and stores jacked up prices on generators or gas stations raised the price on gasoline, they were charged and fined by the state attorney general for price gouging. I can find no justification whatsoever to charge more than MSRP for a vehicle. Most of us on this forum are not dealers, and I appreciate your insight.
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- #273 of 488
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Re: Dealer Greed [ballcoach]
by jglackin
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Dec 26, 2004 (5:12 pm)
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Replying to: ballcoach (Dec 24, 2004 7:22 am)
You're right - I won't argue. I don't know why a gas station can't "set its own price" based on market conditions. I work at a reputable dealer, and we have not charged over sticker for vehicles, even when local competition has. I have a friend at a Honda dealer, where they sold Pilots at MSRP when they first came out (because Honda is apparently very strict), but they required all buyers to spend $3000 in accessories - $2000 running boards, $1200 alarm, etc. To me, I'd rather say it just over MSRP.
One last note one the dealer world...the dealers set wholesale prices at the auctions based on their buying habits. If you ordered a 300C for MSRP and took delivery 3 or 4 months ago, you could have sold it at auction for the same, plus a small profit to you. Many consumers (and small dealers) did this. That sets wholesale. That is also what sets retail. The long and short of it still doesn't matter. Don't ever pay more than it's worth to you - that may be $500 under invoice (it just depends on when a person buys their car).
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- #274 of 488
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A Little disapointed
by als361
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Dec 27, 2004 (5:16 pm)
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I got a call from my dealer that my car will be in next week Jan 4th. It is almost 6 months from the time I ordered it. I actually feel cheated because in about 6 months or so the Car will be a year old model The 2006 models will be out with the bigger engine. If I had any idea that it would take this long to get a car I would have never ordered it. I always like to get a new car at the beginning of the Model year so I have the car for a whole year before the next years Model comes out. When you go to trade or sell, it is a year old car even if you have it for 6 months.
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