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#16 of 24 Re: Luxury sport sedan [gagrice #13]
Jun 22, 2004 (4:19 pm)
I test drove a Passat TDI wagon, too.
That is as large and luxurious a car as I would ever want for my family of four.
With sun roof, heated seats/mirrors/washers, automatic, air bags all over the place, and skid protection, it is still HALF the price of an E320, and a much better value than, say a Volvo V70
(our current family car).
For solo commuting, I'd prefer the Jetta TDI (even better fuel economy, and more fun to drive with manual tranny) at under $20K for a wagon in GL trim. In GLS, with leather, the sedan seems like a more expensive car than it is, and might even satisfy some people's "luxury sport sedan" definition after adding the Upsolute ship.
#17 of 24 Re: Luxury sport sedan [tom21769 #16]
Jun 22, 2004 (5:10 pm)
After driving it I think it is a great car for the price. It does have all you would really need in a luxury car. My wife has driven her LS 400 since it was new in 1990. It is a lot bigger and still gets what I consider good mileage for a large car with V8 power. And it still runs perfect. Tough to justify even spending $25k.
#18 of 24 Re: Luxury sport sedan [gagrice #17]
Jun 22, 2004 (6:08 pm)
Sounds like you bought a great car in that LS400, and took care of it too.
#19 of 24 Re: Luxury sport sedan [tom21769 #18]
Jun 22, 2004 (6:19 pm)
It only has 81k miles and always serviced at the dealer that sold it. They are not cheap to have service on though I can tell you that. You would think you just bought a whole new set of batteries for a Prius getting the oil changed.
#20 of 24 Re: Luxury sport sedan [gagrice #19]
Jun 26, 2004 (4:42 pm)
WOW.. it costs 3 grand for an oil change on a Lexus....whew.... When I leased the RX300 I brought it to my local station for oil changes. Why waste money at a dealer???
#21 of 24 Re: Luxury sport sedan [djasonw #20]
Jun 26, 2004 (7:34 pm)
Not 3 grand but I don't think she ever got out of the dealership for less than $400 just getting oil change and checking everything. I would not buy another for several reasons. Handling and comfort are wonderful. Fuel consumption is very good for the power and size. Toyota shines through in the high cost of maintenence after the warranty expires. I know many would argue that and it is not just Toyota, Honda is worse. Japanese car parts cost more than they are worth....
#22 of 24 Re: Luxury sport sedan [gagrice #21]
Jun 26, 2004 (8:13 pm)
Quite true, but have you ever priced German parts? They're just as bad. This is where domestic manufacturers shine. Regardless, Lexus makes wonderful luxury autos. Amazing that they've only been around LESS than 20 years and make a car better than Mercedes IMHO.
#23 of 24 Re: Luxury sport sedan [djasonw #22]
Jun 26, 2004 (9:56 pm)
The only German car I have owned is a 1967 bug. And parts were every where and reasonable. I am sure MB is much different. My wife traded her MB300SD in on the LS 400 prior to our marriage. She feels the Lexus is superior.
#24 of 24 Re: Luxury sport sedan [tom21769 #16]
Jul 04, 2004 (12:37 pm)
Speaking of diesel-electric hybrids... I saw one with my own eyes a couple of weeks ago. Here in CT there is a public transport bus (full-size) making normal runs. Gm is making hybrid diesel buses, and those buses are operating in areas like Seattle, Washington (USA).