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2007 Caddy Escalade

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#23 of 145
Well, by nvbanker
Jul 21, 2004 (2:31 pm)
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we are talking the General, you know......
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by samnoe
Jul 21, 2004 (7:57 pm)
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Lutz should better focus on the dated interior, rather than the exterior. And I mean all of them, Escalade, Suburban & Yukon. We need both, nice design (kind of Chevy Equinox wouldn't be bad) AND good quality, especially for such an expensive vehicle as Escalade.
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Re: [theo2709] by evok
Jul 22, 2004 (5:38 am)
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Replying to: theo2709 (Jul 21, 2004 5:57 am)

Theo: From what I hear, Lutz and Cafaro were at it over the front end. Lutz watered it down to the point it looks just like a mild up date of the current front end. Cafaro wanted to make it edgier then the current vehicle with huge head lamps. Very in your face.
 
Also, last I heard Lutz wanted unique doors. The math data was to be frozen months ago. It depends on how much Lutz wanted to change the door. If substancial it could affect the out ring sheet metal. New doors could be an expensive proposition.
 
I do not know if it officially has been pushed back or if the release date has been change but I know they are under the gun.
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by nvbanker
Jul 22, 2004 (1:54 pm)
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I agree with samnoe - the problem isn't on the outside, it's the Chevy truck interior with plood here and there that is a turn off. Lutz should know better than that!
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2006 is that correct by blkcadillac
Nov 24, 2004 (3:26 pm)
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I thought that the Tahoe and Yukon would debeut first in 2006, then in 2007 the new Escalade would premire.
 
As like before the Tahoe and Yukon came out in 2000 then the Escalade in early 2001 sold as a 2002 model.
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Re: [theo2709] by pacific
Nov 28, 2004 (8:46 pm)
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Replying to: theo2709 (Jul 19, 2004 11:55 am)

I leased (for spouse and 3 kids) a 2000 Ford Excursion V10 with limited slip diff. for two years. We decided NOT to buy. I now own a 2002 Acura MDX w/touring pkg. I love the MDX and it seats up to 7 with little luggage room. B/c it's paid for, I will prob. keep it another 10 years. I miss the large Excursion and its room, but the spouse wanted more luxury I looked at a $70k ESV, but can't justify the price. I can buy a 2000 Excursion for 12,000 and intall a better engine and new leather for uner 15,000. It's LARGER than the ESV and let's us keep $50k growing tax deferred. As for keeping up with the Jones family: newsflash: they are broke. Ha!
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Re: [pacific] by blkcadillac
Nov 29, 2004 (10:59 am)
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Replying to: pacific (Nov 28, 2004 8:46 pm)

Jones, thats funny...Yes they are broke...COME ON buy the ESV...But which one though? The Platinum has many features.. Great Sound system, DVD-based navigation, rear seat DVD entertainment system with two 7-inch screens, 2nd- and 3rd-row, includes four wireless headphones
 Seating, heated and cooled, 1st- and 2nd-row
 Interior accents, chrome
 Trim, door panel, pleated leather
 Trim, burled walnut wood
 Cupholders, heated and cooled, 1st-row
 Pillars, premium headliner and cloth wrapped
 Floor mats, premium
 Wheels, 20-inch chrome aluminum, 9-spoke
 Sunroof, power
 Grille, chrome
 Badging, platinum
All this is not worth 70K...Well I guess not....Hey what is larger than the Excursion?
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Re: [blkcadillac] by eaton53
Nov 29, 2004 (1:35 pm)
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Replying to: blkcadillac (Nov 29, 2004 10:59 am)

"Hey what is larger than the Excursion?"
 
This is (as pickups go, at least):
http://money.cnn.com/2004/09/13/pf/autos/monster_truck/
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Re: Improvement [corvette] by lordaddy
Mar 15, 2005 (3:05 pm)
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Replying to: corvette (May 19, 2004 5:28 pm)

A restyle would be nice, but PLEASE GM get rid of the huge Caddy emblem on the back of the SUV. If you get it any bigger you could use it as a tire. Other than that, sweet ride. Could use some updating and it needs to be set apart from the Suburban.
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Re: [rctennis3811] by lexusrocks
Mar 24, 2005 (2:39 am)
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Replying to: rctennis3811 (Apr 25, 2004 11:54 am)

Im with you man. The current Escalade has only two things going for it, an outrageously powerful motor as well as sharp styling that helps it get noticed in a crowd. You won't confuse that front grille with that of a Yukon/Tahoe. Anyway, apart from that, I find the Escalade to be lacking in several areas.
 
1) It needs a new dashboard. Using the same dashboard design found in the cheaper Suburban/Yukon XL, Tahoe/Yukon, Silverado/Sierra is unacceptable to me. Come on, isn't it bad enough that the same dash design is found on all General Motors fullsize trucks/SUVs? This design dates back to the year 2000, when General Motors redesigned it's fullsize trucks/SUVS. For paying a considerable premium over a loaded Yukon Denali, you would expect a little more substance. Also, why is the analog clock located so low on the dash? How do you see it? The wood on the dashboard is nice, but all in all an expensive vehicle like the Escalade should have a different dash to distinguish it from it's cheaper siblings. Hopefully this issue will be addressed in the redesign. Otherwise, the Escalade doesn't really justify it's high price tag.
 
2) The Escalade should also have a fold flat third row seat, just like the Expedition/Navigator. This feature makes the Escalade more family friendly.
 
3)The towing capacity of the Escalade rests at 8100 lbs. This is quite good, but to be more competitive, they should match or beat the 9100 pounds that the QX56 can tow, or the 8900 pounds that the Navigator can pull.
 
They should stick with the same engine for next year. Or better yet, drop the SSR's 6.0 liter V8 390hp in there. Give it the power to compete with an ML55 AMG or Porsche Cayenne.
 
Until the Escalade can meet all of this, my luxury SUV of choice is the Lincoln Navigator. It's got a good amount of power, the styling is subdued yet elegant, the interior is completely different from an Expedition, and the interior is cavernous, with tons of room for a family.
 
The QX56 looks really cheap inside, and there's not enough there to justify the premium over the Nissan Armada. Again, just like the Escalade, the same dash, in an ugly gray color is used. The QX56 is only good with regards to engine power and value.
 
How could the Escalade have won the 2003 Large Luxury SUV comparison test? JUst because it had a powerful engine? The real winner would have been the Lexus LX470 or the Lincoln Navigator. You can't go wrong with either one.

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