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Honda Accord Hybrid vs. Toyota Camry Hybrid

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Re: Smug? [wco81] by ttenrag
Sep 13, 2005 (4:30 pm)
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Replying to: wco81 (Aug 29, 2005 5:13 pm)

"gas-guzzling, over-polluting types"
 
First let me say that I have a Toyota 4runner (2004) and I love it. I live in a part of the country where I wouldn't get out of my driveway 4 months out of the year without it!
 
As for gas-guzzling. Guess what i average 23 MPG with mix city/hwy.....better than some cars. "Overpolluting"??? Show me a statistic that labels my SUV as being more pollutant than another car such as a Camry. I believe Toyota is well known for building clean and safe engines.
 
If you really are concerned about pollution through automobiles then SUV's should be your least concern. Maybe you should ban all cars that are older than 10 years old......that would make more sense.
 
TY
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Re: Smug? [ttenrag] by falconone
Sep 13, 2005 (4:53 pm)
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Replying to: ttenrag (Sep 13, 2005 4:30 pm)

WOW... that's pretty impressive for a 4 Runner. I took one for a test drive about a year ago with the new V6 engine. I took it for 1/2 hour and barely got 18 mpg in mixed driving. What's your secret? My brother has has a Toyota Solara (2004) with the 4cyl engine. He gets great mileage on the highway but barely gets 17 in city only driving. Must be that marvel mystery oil you're using.
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Re: Smug? [falconone] by blane
Sep 13, 2005 (5:47 pm)
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Replying to: falconone (Sep 13, 2005 4:53 pm)

falconone,
 
Oh no, not MMO again. Please don't resurrect that horrible discussion.
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Re: Smug? [blane] by falconone
Sep 14, 2005 (3:30 am)
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Replying to: blane (Sep 13, 2005 5:47 pm)

I wasn't there for that one. Hopefully they'll bypass my comment.
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Re: Smug? [blane] by stevedebi
Sep 14, 2005 (9:51 am)
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Replying to: blane (Sep 13, 2005 5:47 pm)

"Oh no, not MMO again. Please don't resurrect that horrible discussion."
 
MMO?
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Re: Efficiency [kdhspyder] by hongcho
Sep 14, 2005 (5:18 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Sep 13, 2005 2:23 pm)

If they use the same technology as the Hy-Highlander you can expect ~ 270 HP in the new V6 Camry. V8 power with Corolla/Civic gas mileage and emissions.
 
Huh? I thought the Camry Hybrid will be based on I4, not V6...
 
Toyota's Camry Hybrid page
 
Most of Camry Hybrid's electrical powertrain components will be imported from Japan, but the 4-cylinder engine will be assembled in Georgetown, Kentucky
 
Hong.
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4 vs 6 by jrct9454
Dec 13, 2005 (7:14 am)
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Yes, I'm hoping that Toyota has determined to take a different path with the Camry Hybrid than Honda did with the Accord - use the 4 cyl to go for really great fuel consumption numbers and even lower emissions. We don't need another hybrid "hot rod" sedan in this category.
 
An HONEST, repeatable 35 mpg in a Camry with what would amount to nearly-6cyl performance would be a winner for me, and make all of the diesel alternatives that we still haven't seen mostly moot. Price it in the mid $20s - say a real-world transaction price of about $24-25k - and they won't be able to make them quickly enough.
 
We don't need another $30k performance exercise like the Honda - I like the car, but it doesn't represent for me what the potential for this technology really is.
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Re: 4 vs 6 [jrct9454] by midnightcowboy
Dec 13, 2005 (9:39 am)
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Replying to: jrct9454 (Dec 13, 2005 7:14 am)

By the same token I hope the Camry is't like the "slug" that gets 60/51 mpg. Something with performance around 8.5 sconds 0-60 mph would be great.
 
Of course, If I were Honda I would be working on a 4cyl Accord hybrid also.
 
Cheers,
 
MidCow
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Re: 4 vs 6 [jrct9454] by robertsmx
Dec 13, 2005 (10:03 am)
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Replying to: jrct9454 (Dec 13, 2005 7:14 am)

I don't think 4-cylinder over V6 would have enough fuel economy advantage. May be couple of mpgs, so I can see why HAH stands on its own when it comes to delivering the goods, while compromising a little. The only advantage to an Accord Hybrid with I-4 could be a grand or two saved on engine choice over V6.
 
In the end, real life fuel economy between HAH and Camry hybrid may be negligible.
 
What I'm really curious about, now, is HCCI (Homogenous Charge Compression Ignition) engine technology that Honda is supposed to showcase in its prototypical form early 2006. And I hope it would be ready by the time next HAH comes around.
 
Here is an article on it
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The latest road test by drfill
Mar 28, 2006 (6:30 am)
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Our Reviewer's Corrected 2007 Camry Hybrid Mileage
 
  
 
Because of the low fuel economy readings in my test of the Toyota Camry Hybrid, I asked for, and received, the car for a quick weekend of re-testing.
 
We drove the car to my daughter's, a trip of 375 miles, more than four times the mileage of the original test.
 
My mileage in this second test was 37.4 mpg, and it consisted of mostly highway miles, not the hybrid's ideal environment since they usually do better in urban driving. According to the onboard computer, I nudged over 40 mpg with cruise control set at 70 mph for one stretch.
 
I feel this is a closer indication of the kind of mileage one might expect with the Camry Hybrid, not the mid-20 mpg I achieved in my original test.
 
So Sorry...but thanks to the sharpest Internet audience, I have been corrected.
 
John Heilig>
 
    DrFill

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