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Replying to: winter55 (May 24, 2004 7:43 am) |
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Replying to: compre7360 (May 11, 2004 5:25 pm) My hang up is how horribly Saturns depreciate. I know I will always be upside down on a note. I know there are loyal Saturn buyers, is their poor resale value a problem for anyone else? Thanks |
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I would also like to know what the deal is with the vouchers, and if there still is a deal with the vouchers. (I know they can't be combined with the GM discount, but it may work out better, who knows.) I know the $3000 bonus cash is different because the one dealership was trying to give me 2 vouchers ($500) telling me it worked out better than using my GM discount (which according to them was $750). After explaining that it wasn't working out better several times they FINALLY realized what I was talking about... too much frustration from them, so I am dealing with a different dealer now. Also, I have heard/found conflicting things about the GM discount and even the 800 number I have to call was useless. They keep telling me that they can't tell me anything and to talk to my dealer and look for GSU pricing (I get the GM Supplier discount). I just want to know what percentage off I should be expecting. I have heard that GSU gets you 1% below invoice, but I have also heard that GSU is equal to GMS (what employees pay?) plus 4.5%. That's fine... but what is the GMS percentage off?? Does anyone know who would be willing to share? Of course, that doesn't seem to agree with the $750 the one dealer was trying to give me... which makes it even more confusing for me. I am looking at a V6 AWD with Comfort Package and H/C Air Bags. I would like the MP3 player but none of the existing ones seem to have it without several other options. The only one they found (in a 5 state search) that had it, also had a sunroof and that is the ONLY option I REFUSE to pay for. This is my first new car (I can use all the help I can get!!) and I am most likely purchasing next Saturday! If anyone is willing to shed some light, I'd appreciate it!!! Thanks! |
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I posted the "vouchers & GSU/GMS pricing... confused" message 2 weeks ago. I bought the Vue on Saturday and it is sah-weet! I bought it from a dealership near my parents house in MD and then drove it up to PA yesterday because I am currently in the process of moving to PA. The main reason I bought it from the one in MD (as opposed to going elsewhere in PA) was because they are able to finance it for me through my bank, so I didn't have to get involved in any of the dirty work on the loan processing end. The GSU discount, at least for the Saturn is GMS+4.5%, which put me at about 3% below MSRP. Not a whole lot, but something, it took about $770 off. GMS is what employees pay and GSU is what suppliers pay. I saw the dealer invoice, which having the GSU discount allows you to do. I don't have the papers in front of me at the moment, but after the discount it came to a little over $24,900. I got the AWD V6, with the comfort package and h/c side air bags, in silver. My interest rate from my bank was 3.69%, so I took the $3000 cash back. I got the rubber floor mats for about $66. My buying experience was superb. Since we can say the dealership's name... it was Pohanka Saturn of Bowie, in Bowie, MD. I definitely did not have that much fun at the previous dealership! I was actually EXCITED to write out the check for the down payment, and up until I got there, the thought of writing that check was making me sick, regardless of the fact that I was getting a great car! But it was such a relaxed environment and they explained everything that was going on. I had my parents, sister, and boyfriend with me, so we gave them quite an audience. There was no haggling, but no one was rude about that fact. Granted, I had been talking to the guy on the phone for the past 2 weeks (since I work in PA, just haven't moved permanently yet), he processed my loan, and it was pretty much a given I was walking out of there with that car, but that is not the point. I never gave him a penny until Saturday. They did a 5-state search for the car, brought it to that dealership, and everything with only MY WORD saying I was coming on the 24th. This is compared to the other dealership in PA who wouldn't even look for a car meeting my specs until I gave them $500 and I actually visited that one to discuss and test drive the Vue. Since my parents still live in down there, I might even just get it serviced there when I come down to visit, which I do a lot anyway. As for driving it all the way back from MD to PA... the best drive ever!!! Words just cannot describe how smooth and comfortable this ride was, even on PA roads! My only "regret" is that I wish had been able to get the advanced audio system or at least the MP3 player. My boyfriend's Oldsmobile has a great sound system with Bose speakers, so compared to that the Vue was lacking. Of course if I didn't have that to compare it to, it sounds fine. But that's ok, a trip to Circuit City or Bryn Mawr stereo will solve that problem in a couple months for about the same price. Sorry this is super long, but I really hope this helps someone else out!! |
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A reporter wants to talk with Saturn Vue owners about any suspension problems they have experienced. Please respond to jfallon edmunds.com asap no later than Thursday, August 5, 2004 with your daytime contact info. Thanks, Jeannine Fallon PR Director Edmunds.com |
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the vue from my list. I was in Saturn dealer today, we had test drive, the vehicle, in terms of power, is nice. But it is not a hot shot to pay MSRP, so much el-cheapo plastic interior. And the dealership tried to screw us up on our trade-in, big time. They come up with rediculus number. Hmmm!, I pay MSRP and don't get fair price on my trade-in; no, thanks Saturn.
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Replying to: snowman (Aug 21, 2004 12:01 pm) They did low-ball me on my trade, so I elected to just keep the car (96 SL2) 'cause it is more valuable to me as transportation than for the $1500 they offered me in trade. No, I would definitely not pay MSRP in today's depressed new car market. In fact, I would think it would be just the opposite for the VUE with the recent press about the suspension. Not that I am worried about my back wheel falling off or anything, but some people will completely write off a manufacturer or model due to bad press without doing their own investigation to see the validity of the press claims. If you are still interested in the VUE, I would look to other Saturn dealerships (via email, web or phone if necessary). By this point, you probably have a good idea of what VUE you want and what MSRP appears to be for the combo you desire. [Okay, this is getting long  ] One last thing. Different dealerships charge different amounts for pin striping, document fees, etc. In my research, I found the lowest doc fees to be $20 and the highest to be just under $200. That is a huge difference for basically the same pieces of paper. Also, pinstriping ranged from $89 to $119 depending on the dealer. Do your homework and check around for the best overall deal. And who knows, a different sales person at your local shop may work out better for you.
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Replying to: johnb (Aug 23, 2004 6:05 am) So they are making the same amount of profit as selling VUE MSRP. Rebate comes from factory. Oh well!, I'll focus on Escape/Tribute. I am a Ford guy anyway...
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I am happy to be able to post that my husband and I just purchased our 2004 VUE Redline on Oct. 5, 2004. After seeing the prices people are posting on here, I'm embarrassed to say how much we got ours for! (Not nearly as low, unfortunately!) However, they did offer me $1600 more for my trade-in than the Chevy dealer (we were considering an Equinox.) It was the last 2004 Redline they had on their lot. Is it true they only made 4,000 of them? Our experience at the Saturn dealership was wonderful. We did own a Saturn before, a 1997 can't remember the name: SL-1 or something? Anyhow, that experience was good, we never had problems with the car, but when we had a second child in 1999 and it proved to be too small, we got rid of it. They hadn't yet come out with an SUV, and so we got a different car. We are happy to be back in the Saturn family! No problems as of yet with it, but I am reading on some in this forum, and I'm glad to have found this so I can be prepared for potential problems. |
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Purchased new Saturn Vue AWD with new Honda 6 cyl and every 'extra' accept Onstar and roof rails, In late February 2004. Liked the idea of Honda reliability. Have purchased 7 general Motors vehicles in the last 14 years. We've been miserable since puchasing the Vue. The car has basically been falling down around the Honda engine. (The engine being practically the only thing to function as designed.) The all wheel drive has been a constant source of repairs: stripped out bolts in doors, causing window malfunctions and subsequent repairs. Broken radio/Cd player had to be replaced. I have a file filled with records of said repairs. The Saturn Headquarters will not buy the car back, or swap it. They feel that repeated visits for the same problems are O.K. because I still have a warranty. They would only give me an additional 1 year warranty. Which, if I keep the car, I'm sure I'll need. As yet, Saturn has still not addressed the voluntary recall on the left rear suspension failure identified by NHTSA. The general manager of the dealership admitted "Your car does seem to have quite a few problems." But he would only offer a new 2005 if I came up with several thousand dollars. My wife and I have been incredibly understanding and patient. Probably too much so. It's this sort of treatment, that pushes people to Toyota and Honda. In short, if the Honda engine appeals to you, buy the Honda
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