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Re: Mitsubishi Endeavor: Prices Paid & Buying Experience [fm1966 #43]
by fm1966
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May 02, 2004 (4:27 pm)
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Replying to: fm1966 (May 01, 2004 8:53 am)
Update to you all. I've decided to buy the '04 Isuzu Ascender/5 passenger. I think I'm going to be quite content with this vehicle. I have the 4x4, and the leather and sunroof package. I should be quite content. Thank you for your help and suggestions on the Endeavor. I truly appreciated it. 
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my shopping experience
by iron
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May 09, 2004 (12:26 am)
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Replying to: fm1966 (May 02, 2004 4:27 pm)
what's with the salesmen asking for target monthly payment, then going into the backroom and coming out with a magical number with no explanation of how they arrived at that? That is sooo lame and seems so out of the times. Saturn didn't pull that one on me, Lexus didn't pull that one on me, BMW didn't pull that one on me. Well the dude kept trying to negotiate using monthly so i just gave him a low number and did't budge. Needless to say he couldn't take that number so I just left. What else am i to do. Without figures such as invoice, rebates, their own dicountoff msrp, etc, there's no way for me to tell if i'm getting a good deal or not. The only numbers layed out were the loan terms. Maybe they WHERE realy offering me a good deal, but unless I see those numbers I aint going to bite. Oh wells, I think I'm just going to buy over at carsdirect or some other online source, which is a shame because I really would rather have a local sales person make money off a sale.
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by steve_ HOST
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May 09, 2004 (10:01 am)
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Sounds like it's good that you walked.
Every once in a while I reread Confessions of a Car Salesman. It's a hoot (unless it's your money on the table I guess).
Steve, Host
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Limited Pricing
by rfmehl
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May 21, 2004 (10:05 pm)
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bought 04 limited 2x2 at end of January.
dealer cost/invoice plus shipping was 30261.
got 2k rebate and $500 college grad (wife) rebate so net cost before tax/lic was 27, 761.
Only thing I had to haggle and stand firm on was not paying $300 "advertising fee" over invoice. Sales mgr tried to make me feel guilty'- that he had no profit on the car, but a few minutes later I saw him smiling away as he processed the transaction.
Overall, very good experience- excellent car, absolutely no problems, doing well on regualr gas (87 octane) and have about 3k miles on it.
live in Lake Forest (Orange county), california.
noticed advertising on new mitsu's- they have 36,000 mile all maintenance thrown in (brakes, oil changes, etc. like BMW). Actually got letter from dealer asking me to sell car back to them and buy a new one- would get 1k loyalty rebate on top of all others and main. program as well.
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Endeavor XLS or Kia Sorrento EX
by jea
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May 21, 2004 (10:27 pm)
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My wife and I are undecided about which SUV is better. We are a family of 3, planning on 4 next year. We like the Kia Sorrento and Mitsubishi Endeavor, but we don't know which one is better? Can anyone tell us their opinion about these 2 vehicles?
Thank you!
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Re: Endeavor XLS or Kia Sorrento EX [jea #48]
by iron
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May 21, 2004 (11:19 pm)
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Replying to: jea (May 21, 2004 10:27 pm)
have you test driven both? The endeavor is a really awesome suv in my opinion. The kia has the price advantage though. Although mitsu's 3 years free maintainence incentive this month may help balance the difference.
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Re: Endeavor XLS or Kia Sorrento EX [jea #48]
by rureddy
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May 22, 2004 (7:15 pm)
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Replying to: jea (May 21, 2004 10:27 pm)
Actually, I got my wife the Kia Sorenta a few months back and just purchased the Endeavor for myself not long ago. Would have considered the Sorento for myself but didn't want the same vehicle as my wife. Both have proven to be great vehicles, I think some of the more notible differences would be the Sorento is truck based and the Endeavor is car based. This gives a slight edge to the Mitsubishi in everyday driving and the Sorento when it comes to off road. Also, I preferred the interior of the Endeavor, it seemed very open and I liked the layout, plus you can't beat the 315 watt Infinity stereo. Both have received many great reviews from different organizations, including our one and only Edmunds. The Kia was selected best SUV under $25,000 and the Endeavor won the crossover test. I did a lot of research on both before buying and recommend either one. If you have any specific questions let me know and I'll do my best to answer them.
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Re: Endeavor XLS or Kia Sorrento EX [rureddy #50]
by jea
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May 26, 2004 (10:18 pm)
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Replying to: rureddy (May 22, 2004 7:15 pm)
Thank you for all this information. This weekend we are gonna test drive both SUV's again and I'll let you know what happens. Thanks for being available to answer any of our future questions! I think you have two great cars!!
Actually, I have a question. Does the Endeavor only uses Premium fuel? What about the Kia Sorrento?
Thanks!
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Endeavor Gas usage
by rfmehl
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May 31, 2004 (4:45 pm)
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Have pretty much used regular (87 octane) for 04 endeavor w/o any discernable problems. Have 3.5k miles on it.
Would recommend using both regular and premium and see if you can tell any difference, but I can't and am happy to save the 20 cent difference (4 dollars per fillup).
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Re: Endeavor XLS or Kia Sorrento EX [jea #51]
by rureddy
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May 31, 2004 (6:29 pm)
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Replying to: jea (May 26, 2004 10:18 pm)
I use 89 octane in both the Endeavor and the Kia, haven't noticed any lack of power. I actually drove the wife's Kia this weekend to compare it to my Endeavor since it had been awhile since I drove her vehicle. I think the Kia has a slight edge at high end power, I typically drive between 80 - 85mph on the expressways and you really don't notice much difference until you get over this. To me the Endeavor does handle slightly better, though my wife may disagree but the Kia seems to have off roading in it's favour. Still love them both, very happy with their performance so far!
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