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10007 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 7:40 AM
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Replying to: art234 (Apr 26, 2009 6:26 am) Oh well, to each their own I guess.
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Replying to: draz2 (May 01, 2009 10:48 am) |
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Replying to: draz2 (May 01, 2009 10:48 am) ....plus butt ugly (actually fugly) at no extra charge (LOL). |
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Replying to: draz2 (May 01, 2009 10:48 am) As has already been pointed out, the TL is.. well hideous. I haven't been so revolted by a car's styling since the Pontiac Aztec. You do get lots electronic gizmos as is the Acura way, but you also get lousy materials and an ugly interior absolutely plastered with buttons, which is also the Acura way. I counted some 16 buttons on the steering wheel alone. Every last piece of trim in there is plastic. In the Audi you get real aluminum, or real wood. In the Acura you get plastic and like it, as there is not even an option for real trim. The Acura may be one of the cheapest cars in the class, but it looks and feels like the cheapest car in the class. Even the Cadillac CTS has an interior that's about 500x better, mostly because the CTS is not a glitzed-up Chevy. Despite its 305hp, the Acura is also one of the slowest cars in the class, thanks to Honda's inability to design an engine that has any torque below redline. In C&D's recent comparison test (where the TL SH-AWD came in last place to an A4 2.0T, G35, and BMW 328i), it was barely faster than the 4-cylinder Audi. "Bullet-proof reliability" is also not a certainty by any means. All of those electronic gizmos that come standard in an Acuras tend to go wrong in their first model year introductions, and must be corrected in year 2 and 3.
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 01, 2009 2:34 pm) Yeah, that interior really sucks. |
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Replying to: draz2 (May 01, 2009 3:36 pm) |
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 01, 2009 2:34 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (May 01, 2009 6:06 pm) |
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Replying to: houdini1 (May 01, 2009 6:06 pm) The 09 TL is actually doing decently, and kicking the butt of the G37. G sales are off 47%!! What I also found interesting is that Hyndai sold more Genesis sedans than Infiniti sold G sedans, just by a few, but still the G sedan seems to be faced with growing competition and is stumbling mid-life. I don't know about the A4 but you can bet it's trailing the pack...by a long shot. Rounded: TL Sales 3100 Genesis 2100 G37 Sedan 2000 Overall view: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=147306 |
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Replying to: shmang (May 01, 2009 6:51 pm) The engine is the heart and soul of any auto and I've yet to see a 4 banger that did not vibrate and buzz too much for my taste. IMO no amount of glitz will make up for that.
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