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#9844 of 10007 Re: 2007 Acura RL [mobiusf1] by kyfdx HOST Apr 06, 2009 (8:49 am)
Replying to: mobiusf1 (Apr 06, 2009 7:10 am) Green/orange?   That's a nice color combo... I've seen that somewhere... Just can't place my finger on it..
#9845 of 10007 Something is about to happen by vavavavolvo Apr 06, 2009 (4:34 pm)
Acura is about to release something very interesting at the NY auto show on April 8th that might fit into this discussion.   Stay tuned. Replies to this message: lexusguy (Apr 06, 2009 11:11 pm)
#9846 of 10007 Re: Something is about to happen [vavavavolvo] by lexusguy Apr 06, 2009 (11:11 pm)
Replying to: vavavavolvo (Apr 06, 2009 4:34 pm) Acura is about to release something very interesting at the NY auto show on April 8th that might fit into this discussion.   Yep, it's called the ZDX, and it seems to be a sort of cross between the X6 and 5 series GT - a tall sedan/SUV/coupe thing with a sloping roofline and a hatchback. I don't really get it.
#9847 of 10007 The hazards of guessing... by vavavavolvo Apr 07, 2009 (6:56 pm)
Those details you state about "tall" and "SUV" are probably wrong.   Stay tuned. Replies to this message: lexusguy (Apr 08, 2009 12:14 am) vavavavolvo (Apr 08, 2009 5:52 am) tayl0rd (Apr 14, 2009 3:57 am)
#9848 of 10007 Re: The hazards of guessing... [vavavavolvo] by lexusguy Apr 08, 2009 (12:14 am)
Replying to: vavavavolvo (Apr 07, 2009 6:56 pm) Those details you state about "tall" and "SUV" are probably wrong.   They aren't wrong, and I'm not guessing. The ZDX is a jacked up hatchback/SUV/crossover or whatever you want to call it, intended to go after the X6. I guess they figured somebody had to challenge the X6, but I have no idea why. As I predicted, it's much uglier in reality than the concept renderings suggested. No need to stay tuned, here it is in all its.. er.. "glory".   Replies to this message: vavavavolvo (Apr 08, 2009 5:52 am) tayl0rd (Apr 14, 2009 3:57 am)
#9849 of 10007 Re: The hazards of guessing... [lexusguy] by vavavavolvo Apr 08, 2009 (5:52 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 08, 2009 12:14 am) The object pictured is neither tall nor an SUV.
#9850 of 10007 details by vavavavolvo Apr 08, 2009 (10:13 am)
Here are the details:http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/autoshows/newyork/2009/2010acurazdxnew- s.html?mktcat=enabler&AID=10364102&PID=3144472&kw=N&synpartner=edmunds&mktid=cj2- 60233#2010acurazdxfint1   It is a 4 door crossover that is 61 inches tall. Replies to this message: shmang (Apr 08, 2009 11:42 am) lexusguy (Apr 08, 2009 10:19 pm) anon3 (Apr 23, 2009 2:13 pm)
#9851 of 10007 Re: details [vavavavolvo] by shmang Apr 08, 2009 (11:42 am)
Replying to: vavavavolvo (Apr 08, 2009 10:13 am) Well, it is not an SUV - if it is a cross over. But, at 61 inch, it is tall for a sedan for sure. And just look at the picture, the ground clearance is high - again, for a sedan or a cross over, which might be a good thing as long as it has a good rollover rating.
#9852 of 10007 Re: details [vavavavolvo] by lexusguy Apr 08, 2009 (10:19 pm)
Replying to: vavavavolvo (Apr 08, 2009 10:13 am) It is a 4 door crossover that is 61 inches tall.   Crossover, SUV, whatever. The label isn't important. My car is 56" tall, the Q5 is 65". So the ZDX is either a jacked up sedan, or a chopped SUV. Take your pick. My advice to Acura at this juncture would be to focus on their core products, and restyle them so that I don't have to suppress the urge to vomit every time I look at one. Chasing after microscopic BMW invented niches is not a smart move for a brand that is getting crushed by the competition.   It is nice though to see Acura join the 21st century with a 6-speed autobox. Replies to this message: anon3 (Apr 23, 2009 2:13 pm)
#9853 of 10007 Re: The hazards of guessing... [lexusguy] by tayl0rd Apr 14, 2009 (3:57 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 08, 2009 12:14 am) ... I guess they figured somebody had to challenge the X6...     How quickly they forget. Infiniti was the first in that niche w/ the FX. And considering that the FX has been around for several years, it's BMW and (maybe) now Acura who are challenging the FX.

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