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#9834 of 10338 Re: 2007 Acura RL [lexusguy] by houdini1

Apr 04, 2009 (6:37 am)

Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 03, 2009 11:44 pm)
Lexus doesn't seem to offer any threat at all which I'm not surprised about.
 
I really don't think Lexus has any intention of trying to duplicate a 5 series any more than BMW wants to duplicate a GS, so likewise, I don't see any threats to the GS from BMW.
 
Both cars have their pros and cons with Lexus leaning more toward luxury and reliability and BMW toward austerity and performance. Neither one is right or wrong, just different. Some people like chocolate and some like vanilla.
 
IMO most people buy cars that fit with their own self image and/or to project an image of how they want others to perceive them. Psychology 101.

#9835 of 10338 Re: 2007 Acura RL [houdini1] by mobiusf1

Apr 04, 2009 (11:31 am)

Replying to: houdini1 (Apr 04, 2009 6:37 am)
Agreed.
 
As much as we're all taking about great performance and this and that, the fact is a lot of people do buy cars based on psychology. Being honest, even if Lexus made some amazing performance car to compete w/ the 5 series I would still have trouble thinking about purchasing it because of my image of Lexus. I definitely wouldn't feel right in it.

#9836 of 10338 Re: 2007 Acura RL [mobiusf1] by houdini1

Apr 04, 2009 (12:28 pm)

Replying to: mobiusf1 (Apr 04, 2009 11:31 am)
I can still remember how utterly foolish I felt when my kids were growing up and for some reason or other I had to drive one of their cars...(camaro, sentra, mitsubishi, etc.)
 
I also think our preferences can change over the years. For a long time it was either BMW or Mercedes for me but for the last 10 years or so it has been mostly Lexus, with a 2002 RL (very nice car) thrown in.
 
I have never owned an Audi but that might make a nice change. I would not rule one out in the future. It seems like sort of a compromise between BMW and Lexus.

#9837 of 10338 Re: 2007 Acura RL [mobiusf1] by pg48477

Apr 04, 2009 (5:22 pm)

Replying to: mobiusf1 (Apr 04, 2009 11:31 am)
I beg to disagree, the reason why you have certain perception of the car company is because of the type of cars it produce/produced. Lexus simply never made sport oriented cars (may be until recently with ISF) and for this reason many would never consider purchasing one.
 
For me Lexus does not have anything over BMW. BMW handles better, it's faster ( in case of 535) and more luxurious. Without sports package it offers amazing blend of great handling and ride. Lexus might be more reliable, but I lease so it's not the most important factor.

#9838 of 10338 Re: 2007 Acura RL [pg48477] by mobiusf1

Apr 05, 2009 (1:19 pm)

Replying to: pg48477 (Apr 04, 2009 5:22 pm)
Your right on.
 
honestly with the whole reliability thing, the 3 and 5 are fairly reliably cars, not like they used to be back in the 90s. And BMWs on the whole hold their value better than Lexus so the whole lease vs. purchase is even less of an argument.

#9839 of 10338 Re: 2007 Acura RL [houdini1] by lexusguy

Apr 05, 2009 (2:04 pm)

Replying to: houdini1 (Apr 04, 2009 12:28 pm)
I have never owned an Audi but that might make a nice change. I would not rule one out in the future. It seems like sort of a compromise between BMW and Lexus.
 
That's a fair assessment. If you get a chance, drive an Audi at night. One of the things I like most about Audi is their fanatical attention to interior detail, and you really notice that at night when all the lights are on.

#9840 of 10338 Re: 2007 Acura RL [lexusguy] by rockshocka1

Apr 05, 2009 (2:20 pm)

Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 05, 2009 2:04 pm)
Totally agree on the interior lighting of the Audis.
 
When researching the cars on the net, even Edmunds pics reflected the interior at night poorly. Too much glare, & a caption to the effect of a plane's cockpit at night.
 
I love how everything is lit with a nice, definitely, not too glaring red.

#9841 of 10338 Re: 2007 Acura RL [lexusguy] by mobiusf1

Apr 05, 2009 (2:34 pm)

Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 05, 2009 2:04 pm)
True, it looks pretty sick at night

#9842 of 10338 Re: 2007 Acura RL [rockshocka1] by lexusguy

Apr 05, 2009 (4:59 pm)

Replying to: rockshocka1 (Apr 05, 2009 2:20 pm)
I love how everything is lit with a nice, definitely, not too glaring red.
 
Indeed. I also like how the accent lighting, such as the button effect lights, are soft and don't clash with the main lighting. They are either amber or red, and are just bright enough to let you know at a glance that the button is on.
 
My wife's BMW uses ultra-bright green accent lights, which are distracting and clash with the overall orange hue. My favorite bit though is probably the little red LED strips above each door handle. I'm not positive, but I don't think anyone else has that.

#9843 of 10338 Re: 2007 Acura RL [lexusguy] by mobiusf1

Apr 06, 2009 (8:10 am)

Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 05, 2009 4:59 pm)
Actually, I love the little green lights. It's a nice contrast to the orange and its stands out.

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