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#9786 of 10338 Re: Jaguar XF vs Infiniti M45 vs Audi A6 3.0T [houdini1] by vigorlover

Mar 16, 2009 (10:51 am)

Replying to: houdini1 (Mar 16, 2009 5:35 am)
Thanks for your suggestion.
 
I bought one of the very first Acura Vigors to reach America back in 1991, and I had it for 16 years. I loved that car! I am disappointed by the styling direction that the new Acuras have taken, and am not really turned on by either TL or RL.
 
I currently own a 1999 A4 2.8 Quattro and 1998 Jaguar XK8 Convertible. I did take a look at the new A4 but I felt much more comfortable with the A6. I have not gone to look at Genesis yet, but maybe I will take my Hyundai-loving friend over to see it.

#9787 of 10338 Re: Jaguar XF vs Infiniti M45 vs Audi A6 3.0T [lexusguy] by vigorlover

Mar 16, 2009 (10:54 am)

Replying to: lexusguy (Mar 15, 2009 9:46 pm)
Thanks for the suggestion Lexusguy. The Jag and especially the Audi have much better fuel economy numbers than M45 certainly in part due to the extra gear. Interestingly the Infiniti dealer did not have a 2009 M35 (with the new engine and 7-speed transmission) that he could find for me to test drive to compare with the M45. They had lots of 2008 models though.

#9788 of 10338 Re: Jaguar XF vs Infiniti M45 vs Audi A6 3.0T [vigorlover] by houdini1

Mar 16, 2009 (1:24 pm)

Replying to: vigorlover (Mar 16, 2009 10:54 am)
I did not know that the new M35 had a new engine and a 7 speed trans. If I were you I would definitely check it out in relation to the M45.
 
Good luck, and as we all know a good part of the fun of a new car is the chase !!

#9789 of 10338 Re: Jaguar XF vs Infiniti M45 vs Audi A6 3.0T [houdini1] by vigorlover

Mar 16, 2009 (1:40 pm)

Replying to: houdini1 (Mar 16, 2009 1:24 pm)
For 2009 both M35 and M35x got the 3.5L from G35 (303hp / 268 lb-ft) but only M35 got the 7-speed AT which boosted fuel economy by a little. M45 got no improvements in that category at all. M35 still has a less powerful engine than what is now in the G37 (328hp / 269 lb-ft).

#9790 of 10338 Dealership experience by bocatrip

Mar 16, 2009 (3:32 pm)

Although I also enjoy Audis, my personal decision would be based on the dealer experience for service. That being said, it's always hands down for the Infiniti or in most cases the Asian makes over the European or Mercedes, Audi, Bmw vs Lexus, Infiniti, Acura. After owning a Bmw, I always felt like I was worked over by Mike Tyson after taking my car in for service.

#9791 of 10338 Re: Jaguar XF vs Infiniti M45 vs Audi A6 3.0T [vigorlover] by lexusguy

Mar 16, 2009 (10:07 pm)

Replying to: vigorlover (Mar 16, 2009 10:54 am)
Thanks for the suggestion Lexusguy.
 
Sure. How is your XK holding up? I had a '98 XK8 convertible myself several years back, sold it after it starting developing electrical problems for a '00 XKR, which I kept for quite awhile. I currently have an '07 XK convertible.
 
I'm generally a fan of Infiniti products, and I'm looking forward to testing the next generation M37 and M50, which will likely correct the issues that the current car has. The 7-speed should take care of the high revs at cruising speed, but the car still lacks that last degree of smoothness that you get with the Audi and Jag, and the interior materials and attention to detail on the inside aren't quite there yet.
 
The XF's interior tricks are neat, but the "vodka bar" lighting is not as sophisticated or soothing as the Audi's classic red glow. The center stack buttons are also a bit flimsy. The Jag's biggest problem though is the engine, it just doesn't make sense to get the 4.2 when the new 5.0 V8 will soon replace it.
 
I think you'll be bored by the Genesis, it's more of a cut-price Lexus LS than anything close to a sport sedan.

#9792 of 10338 Re: [houdini1] by bmlexus

Mar 17, 2009 (4:53 am)

Replying to: houdini1 (Mar 07, 2009 11:20 am)
The 2010 RX is a tremendous improvement and I think it also looks great and we all know it is bulletproof as far as reliability is concerned
 
Thats what you get with Lexus, peace of mind.
 
Reliability would be my concern with the Q5.
 
Maybe I've read to many negative reviews about European cars, I am so scared to think that what if my new car will break down in its first week

#9793 of 10338 Re: [houdini1] by bmlexus

Mar 17, 2009 (5:07 am)

Replying to: houdini1 (Mar 16, 2009 5:29 am)
Hi bmlexus, I'm doing well. Good to hear from you.
  
I see you still haven't pulled the trigger on anything yet. You are very patient. Did you ever look at or drive the Genesis? How about the new coupe? That sounds like a great car for a young man like you. Keep me posted
 
No, I haven't made my decision yet. I am very patient, especially after reading so many different types of reviews.
 
No, I never looked at the Genesis or the coupe, I've been looking for an suv, I like the idea of a high driving position for quite a while.
 
But I do not like the idea of a high driving position in a boxy suv, which most of the majority prefer.
 
Looked at the infiniti fx, but don't like the nissan engine.
 
Been looking at the new RX, and I am very well aware that its a ladies car.
 
The truth is, all this time I've only been interested in the X6, which the majority of posters hate.
 
Thats the only new car I've tested and liked, but the reviews I've read, and personal experience from my friends which proves that its a very bad choice, especially in the reliability department which is my major concern.
 
1more thing, 50% value of all European cars disappear within 2 years.

#9794 of 10338 Re: [bmlexus] by houdini1

Mar 17, 2009 (6:36 am)

Replying to: bmlexus (Mar 17, 2009 5:07 am)
1more thing, 50% value of all European cars disappear within 2 years.
 
Luxury Japanese cars are not much better as far as depreciation is concerned. That is one reason that I usually buy 2 to 3 year old LS's. You basically get a great luxury car with a great factory warranty. All you miss out on is the big hit on depreciation !!
 
That said, I don't believe you should ever buy a car based solely on what makes economic sense. First you have to really want the car for what it is, then you work on the economics. Also don't buy what someone else thinks you should buy. You will always know what you want.

#9795 of 10338 Re: Jaguar XF vs Infiniti M45 vs Audi A6 3.0T [lexusguy] by vigorlover

Mar 17, 2009 (1:25 pm)

Replying to: lexusguy (Mar 16, 2009 10:07 pm)
I bought my 1998 XK Convertible used in 2005, so it is just now 4 years in my hands. The only real problem I have had is with coolant leaks. It seems that every year a new hose starts leaking. I swear I must have had them all replaced by now, but the Coolant Level Low light has come on again, and I have had to put in a bit of distilled water to turn it off. Next oil change in a month or so will probably have another hose replacement on the bill.
 
The only electrical problem I have had was the passenger seat controls, there was a wire in the seat getting pinched. Hard to find, but they fixed it. Now if only people would stop kicking the seat control module when they get in!
 
Overall this has been a good car, and well worth the investment in terms of return on driving pleasure and overall interest. Everyone tells me it looks like a new car (helped obviously by its classic good looks and the longevity of the platform).

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