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speakers by mako5
Feb 20, 2009 (11:02 am)
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Called Crutchfield and they said they did not have enough information on a 2008 yet to recommend speakers but Thanks.
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Re: Lux Comparision [lexusguy] by sean35
Feb 20, 2009 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Feb 16, 2009 2:04 pm)

I see what you're saying and i agree but i meant for the non-quattro A6 (that would be a 2009 A6 3.2) By the way, have you seen the new A6 3.0T?? I think thats a pretty nice car
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Re: Lux Comparision [sean35] by lexusguy
Feb 20, 2009 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: sean35 (Feb 20, 2009 12:49 pm)

I see what you're saying and i agree but i meant for the non-quattro A6 (that would be a 2009 A6 3.2) By the way, have you seen the new A6 3.0T?? I think thats a pretty nice car
 
The so called "FrontTrak" A6 has always been the base model that no one actually buys, it's just there so that Audi can say the A6 starts at just $45K. I've never seen a FWD A6 in the wild.
 
The new 3.0T is indeed very nice. It's finally a proper replacement for the old 2.7T, and it allows them to take the 535i head on. The next one which will offer ADS and all of Audi's other recent technologies should be stellar.
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Looking for used Luxury Sedan by clarence10
Feb 22, 2009 (4:38 pm)
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Hi all,
 
I am returning a 2007 M35X on a lease in May and will be looking to purchase something used. Tired of the lease and all the extra dollars which goes with it. I had gotten a great lease deal at the time, so I could not pass it up.
 
Here is my question, i have been test driving 2006/5 RL's with around 35-38k miles and the $22-$24k price range. It seems like a nice car, but it is a bit tighter inside then the M. Does anyone have suggestions for other cars to look at? I really want AWD, and need to transport my family of 4.
 
My price range is in the low 20's. Also, I am new to buying used, so any advice would be helpful on tricks to watch out for. I am in NY.
 
hope it is ok to post this here. If not, please let me know where it should go
 
Thx,
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Re: Looking for used Luxury Sedan [clarence10] by lexusguy
Feb 23, 2009 (10:23 pm)
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Replying to: clarence10 (Feb 22, 2009 4:38 pm)

Here is my question, i have been test driving 2006/5 RL's with around 35-38k miles and the $22-$24k price range. It seems like a nice car, but it is a bit tighter inside then the M. Does anyone have suggestions for other cars to look at? I really want AWD, and need to transport my family of 4.
 
I assume you're not interested in just buying out your M35X? It seems odd to go from a 2007 to a 2006. In any case, I wouldn't recommend the RL, it's cramped, sluggish, handles poorly, the interior materials are mediocre, and the electronics are annoying. It's as exciting to look at and drive as a golf cart.
 
A 2006 Audi Certified A6 3.2 would be a much better buy in the $22-24K range. It's much roomier and much more comfortable than the RL, and gets better mileage thanks to a modern 6-speed auto. Audi's MMI system is also vastly better than the Acura interface. The CPO warranty will cover the car until 2012, and up to 100K miles.
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Re: Looking for used Luxury Sedan [lexusguy] by clarence10
Feb 24, 2009 (4:04 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Feb 23, 2009 10:23 pm)

I would agree that the RL seems cramped. The back particularly is much smaller then my M35X.
 
The reason I do not want to buy the lease is that it is $29k to buy out and honestly, I do not know if I trust the infiniti brand in regards to repairs. I have had a variety of issues.
 
What is the repair record like for these 2006 Audi A6 3.2? If you got one, would you only go with a CPO?
 
Any suggestions on where to look?
 
I had spoken to someone who was stearing me towards Acura or Lexus because of repair records,
 
Thx
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Re: Looking for used Luxury Sedan [clarence10] by houdini1
Feb 24, 2009 (6:04 am)
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Replying to: clarence10 (Feb 24, 2009 4:04 am)

It sounds like reliability and good customer service is very important to you. IMO both Lexus and Acura provide superior reliability and customer service. You might check out the ES or the GS. Heck, you could even get a 2006 CPO Lexus LS in the low 30's. I would certainly check it out.
 
Despite various opinions you might get here, Consumer Reports is very high on the RL. Good luck !
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Why No Mention Of The 2009 Acura TL On These Boards? by draz2
Feb 24, 2009 (7:00 am)
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I mention this because I believe the TL competes directly (and favorably) with many of the more presigious cars in this category (i.e. A6, 5 series, E-class) at a price savings of $17-20k. The Acura pricing strategy eliminates all the annoying "packages" you have to buy to get leather, nav, xenon headlights, seat memories, etc. Only two choices. Do you want awd or fwd? After that, do you want the tech package or the base car? The fwd car comes with a 280hp engine and can be had with the tech package for $35,500. The sh-awd version w/ tech (305hp) can be had for $40k.
 
Here's what you get in the tech cars: leather, keyless entry/start, xenon headlights, real time weather and traffic, a SOTA nav system with a nav screen that rivals HDTV, backup camera, seat memory, full ipod integration, a built-in hard drive that you can burn up to 400 hours of CD music directly onto, a restaurant guide with full Zagat ratings and descriptions, heated seats, dual zone climate control and bluetooth.
 
All in a package that's earned 5 start crash ratings. The cabin is amazingly roomy as you might expect in a car that's 74" wide (compare this to the G35/37 which is only 69" wide -- the differences in interior room and comfort are immediately apparent). The rear seat is particulary noteworthy for it's size and is comfortable for 6 foot adults.
 
I drove both the sh-awd and the fwd versions and settled on the fwd car because I live in NYC and I found the sh-awd car to ride too firmly for my tastes. It was jarring on bumps. The fwd car rode just perfectly. Firm, controlled but forgiving over road irregularities. Reminded me of Mercedes' suspensions which I've always regarded as class leading in this size/class of car. But if you live in an area with predominantly smooth roads, the sh-awd may be your car.
 
I realize it may sound heretical, but I honestly believe the 2009 TL competes successfully and directly against to other cars mentioned above.
 
And Acura reliability and build quality are second to none.
 
Any thoughts?

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