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Re: Audi Navigation [james27] by 150mphclub
Apr 16, 2008 (5:29 am)
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Replying to: james27 (Apr 15, 2008 5:52 pm)

Your observation about the sunroof and mirror are RIGHT ON.
 
I challenge anyone to try to buy an Acura, Audi, BMW, Infiniti, Lexus, Mercedes or other non-american luxury car without a sunroof.
 
I ordered a Cadillac CTS with a "delete sunroof" on 2/29/08. It has not been built yet, but I am clinging to the hope that GM will build it.
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Re: Audi Navigation [150mphclub] by warthog
Apr 16, 2008 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: 150mphclub (Apr 16, 2008 5:29 am)

In the American South, a sunroof is a mixed blessing. Except during the evening, early am or late afternoon, the sun is way too bright and hot to leave the sunroof open. However, if the car is going to be parked in the sun for awhile, it's pretty nice to be able to set the sunroof to vent to keep down the pizza oven effect or just to open it briefly upon entering to let the hot air out.
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Re: Audi Navigation [tayl0rd] by james27
Apr 16, 2008 (3:13 pm)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Apr 16, 2008 4:30 am)

Most Fords use that mirror attachment, some Chevy's...it may very well have been on cars you've driven (rentals, etc.), but unless you looked, you may never notice. That's the first thing I do is instead of having the shaft pointing down to lower the mirror, I pivot it up to get it as far out of the way as I can.
 
A few cars ago, I special ordered an Audi A6 without a sunroof...took months. It had 2.85" more headroom than an identical one with a sunroof. When it became time to replace that car, I checked with the dealer who looked and found 2 cars in the whole country without a sunroof. The way they have the options packages for many cars, some of the desireable options MUST include the sunroof (at the time, you could not get the HID lights except with a package with the sunroof).
 
One option I'd like to see more of is a solar panel powered ventillation system...the brighter the sun, the faster it moves the hot air out of the car. Hassle is, if it is there, the few that do offer it, put the solar cells in the sunroof, which usurps all that headroom!
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Re: Audi Navigation [james27] by kgary
Apr 17, 2008 (2:35 am)
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Replying to: james27 (Apr 16, 2008 3:13 pm)

One option I'd like to see more of is a solar panel powered ventillation system...the brighter the sun, the faster it moves the hot air out of the car. Hassle is, if it is there, the few that do offer it, put the solar cells in the sunroof, which usurps all that headroom!
 
I have the solar sunroof in my dark blue A6 4.2 and it is wonderful at keeping the interior cool in the summer. But it is a very rare option.
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Re: Audi Navigation [150mphclub] by lovemyclk
Apr 17, 2008 (3:26 pm)
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Replying to: 150mphclub (Apr 16, 2008 5:29 am)

Well, this is a very specialized car, but the new M3 Coupe has a carbon fiber roof w/o a sunroof option! It is, however, available on the M3 Sedan.
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Re: Audi Navigation [lovemyclk] by james27
Apr 18, 2008 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: lovemyclk (Apr 17, 2008 3:26 pm)

Well, if you are willing to wait, since almost nobody orders them from the factory that way, many of the cars in this category can be had without a sunroof, but then you will NOT be able to get much of any options, since it is included or mandatory with most packages. I know it is a pain, and understand the ecconomies of scale, but really liked the huge option lists and checkboxes of old -you could then pick and choose exactly what you wanted. Pushing the envelope to obtain fuel economy means lower cars with more swept back rooflines. Throw in a mandatory sunroof, and you've eliminated a fair amount of people that actually fit in them. As noted, on the last car, an Audi A6 from late last decade, the difference was 2.85". That's huge.
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6 months and counting. . . by markcincinnati
Apr 19, 2008 (7:23 am)
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My A6 2005 lease is over in 30 days -- I will keep the car 6 months from a few days ago when I placed an order for a new A4 B8 -- I'll of course still hang around here and other car forums, but I will officially be moving to the NEAR-LPS neighborhood in the next few months.
 
All things considered, the new A4 will be way too close in size, lux and performance to the current A6 which is not due for replacement for at least another year, to justify paying more essentially for "about the same," in my circumstances (no kids, two small dogs and my wife to transport.)
 
I ordered the Audi drive select which ough to make this car, "interesting" in terms of performance.
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Re: 6 months and counting. . . [markcincinnati] by rayainsw
Apr 19, 2008 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Apr 19, 2008 7:23 am)

Best of luck with the A4!
- Ray
Drooling over the R8 this AM at the auto show.....
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Re: 6 months and counting. . . [markcincinnati] by lexusguy
Apr 19, 2008 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Apr 19, 2008 7:23 am)

All things considered, the new A4 will be way too close in size, lux and performance to the current A6 which is not due for replacement for at least another year, to justify paying more essentially for "about the same," in my circumstances (no kids, two small dogs and my wife to transport.)
 
Congrats on the new car. The new A4 is really nice, though it were me, I would've held out for whatever Audi ends up doing with either a 300hp version of the 3.2, or the 3.0T. I own my LS though, so I have the luxury of holding on to it until I'm ready to buy again.

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